[Friesiangirl]

Stormy was a doll yesterday. Not only did he jump the imaginary jump (Tell you later on) but he did his FIRST true, engaged, walk pirotte. (OR haunch turn, but that doesn't sound as fancy). I had him chasing the bit, for once. He listened to my leg, and I was just yeilding his hips, and shoulders etc. Then I was like "Lets put it all together". I pushed him into a big walk, and started asking him to move his shoulders while keeping the big forward. He tried his best. He never lost that forward movement and within a few tries he was turning on that inside leg. He also did a beutiful medium trot. Bareback


But before I did that, I took him over a small jump. WEll, it started at 18'' when I had my saddle on still. Me and my friend were just messing around, and she was getting ready for he show etc. WEll, we just had one pole across, and no ground poles etc. Yes, ground poles are good and all. I normally use them, but stormy has been picking his spot with great distance and consitantly. So I figured i should start schooling him without a pole. I know where he should take off from so whats the big deal?

Well some trainer came up to us, and said:

"Why don't you have a ground pole"

I replied: "Well, stormy has been picking his spot well that past whiles, and since there aren't ground poles in X-country, i figured it's good to school without them when you are doing a known height. Stormy consitantly goes over 2'6''. If I was at that height or higher, I would have a pole"

"Well, it's dangerous. The pole is the color of the ground, and he can't see it well. (Note, the ground pole is the same color ). It's ignorant to be jumping him. Besides your eq isn't good enough to be jumping that high."

I took serious offence to this. I have been working on my leg for WEEKS. I had comments from multiple people how secure my leg is and how flat my back is. I was straight up P.isse.d now.

"Well, in Show jumping they don't have a pole either, and i don't see how it's any of your business when or how I jump. I am not putting anyone in danger but myself. OH, and would you care to show me 'proper' Eq over fences?"

She just showed me in her saddle.

Chest stuck out, chicken elbows, leg back. So of COURSE me eq looked bad to her if THAT is what i'm supposed to look like. I just ignored her later and just went on jumping. Geeze, people need to mind their own business. She is a trainer and she should know better than to consitantly bug somebody else who DOESN'T want her help.

Lol WOw

[Pennymercantile]

I understand you are young but taking offense when someone is trying to help you just doesn't cut it.

I think you need to listen more and stop defending less. I am not knowledgable in a lot of things but one thing I do know is that if someone who has trained and shows a lot gives me POINTERS...I listen!

[RimbeyRedneck]

Originally Posted by Pennymercantile

I understand you are young but taking offense when someone is trying to help you just doesn't cut it.

I think you need to listen more and stop defending less. I am not knowledgable in a lot of things but one thing I do know is that if someone who has trained and shows a lot gives me POINTERS...I listen!

Yeah I agree you don't have to like everything a trainer
says but you can learn something from everyone and if you
are jumping in someones barns there are rules and if you don't
want to use a ground rail at home fine but yeah if she is a trainer
i am guessing she has some clue what she is talking about.

[belle4]

FG,

My best advice is to stop and listen. There is something to be learned every day if you open yourself up and let it in. Instead of spouting off at the mouth, you could have spouted off at the ear.

[RowdyRio1324]

I have to agree with what has already been said.

[Feliche]

Well, for the record guys, I believe any of us would at least be SLIGHTLY irritated if somebody told us something we've been working hard on isn't good enough. However, it is true that if you can listen to a lot of people, you can pick and choose what works best for YOU without making any enemies

Oh and just for future reference, the reason XC jumps don't have ground lines is because they're so solid--they go all the way or at least close to the ground. Same with SJ--they use so many poles that the jump is almost "solid" looking.

Glad you had a good day.

[pattonspuff14]

Sorry guys but I don't agree with any of you that said she should've stopped and listened. It would've been different if she would've ASKED for advice, I wouldn't put up with someone coming up to me and telling me how I should be riding my horse. but it would be different if i asked there opinion on it. And I would also be very p.issed if someone told me that my eq isn't good enough to be going over fences, when that trainer can't even jump correctly herself from what Friesangirl explained.

[Fiera]

Actually, barns have rules and you're supposed to listen to the trainers there. If they say, "Stop jumping, your form is dangerous," then you have to stop jumping. At least, that's how it is at ALL the barns I've been at. The trainers know, and you, as a much less knowledeable student, have to listen. I think it was silly to shrug her off and ignore what she asked of you. I totally understand why you were upset, but if I was that trainer I might have had a little chat with your trainer about proper arena usage. I still am not allowed to jump without a trainer/older student being present. It's a basic rule for us. If the trainer thought you were being unsafe, it would not hurt to get some FREE tips and make things less hazardous for all. That's just my take on it. When life throws you lemons, make lemonade.

[RowdyRio1324]

I have my horses are home now, so nobody tells me what to do.

But when I did have my horse at a training/baording barn, that is how it worked, but it might be different for FG. Basically respect the trainers and take listen to their advice given, weather it is right or wrong, that's waht it was at the 2 barns I was at.

I listened to both the critism and compliments I was given,.

Originally Posted by Fiera

Actually, barns have rules and you're supposed to listen to the trainers there. If they say, "Stop jumping, your form is dangerous," then you have to stop jumping. At least, that's how it is at ALL the barns I've been at. The trainers know, and you, as a much less knowledeable student, have to listen. I think it was silly to shrug her off and ignore what she asked of you. I totally understand why you were upset, but if I was that trainer I might have had a little chat with your trainer about proper arena usage. I still am not allowed to jump without a trainer/older student being present. It's a basic rule for us. If the trainer thought you were being unsafe, it would not hurt to get some FREE tips and make things less hazardous for all. That's just my take on it. When life throws you lemons, make lemonade.

[belle4]

Patton,

You are missing the point. FG missed a learning opportunity. Running your mouth off is no way to handle situations. It's not the issue it's how you handle the issue that builds charactor. Have you ever heard this saying, "There's more than one way to skin a cat."