[Lexy]

Originally Posted by doublebarr

Nope, but I would breed her to Plaudit :

buzzzzzzzzzzz...... You lose DB.. Not by breeding her to Plaudit, but by NOT breeding her to Three Bars.

LOL..... c'mon peeps. Would ya? I know it's not very fair asking for an answer without knowing anything about the horse other than what you see...... but this could be a good lesson for all of us to learn.

[Top Dun]

I don't exactly get your line of questioning. you are putting up not so perfect specimens of horses who have ALREADY proven themselves in some way. Three Bars' wasn't the best race horse out there, but he did prove he could compete and had the speed to inject in the the QH racing Scene and that's what was wanted at the time.

The mare In question I don't recognize right off and yea she's a little long in the back, BUT as a horse breeder in that day and age, I'd love to get a mare in foal to Three Bars. He was quite a popular stallion in his day and his foals were marketable. A horse doesn't have to be " pretty " to win races And that's what the Majority of breeders to Three Bars were looking for. A good Race horse.

I can't get the larger photo to load well, but as far as I can see the biggest obvious fault with her is the long looking barrel. Breeding her to a shorter coupled horse Like Three Bars acutally makes some sense.

People always breed for the specific traits they want. Many people can live with a conformational defect or two if it's outside the ones they are breeding for. IN in some peoples eyes PERFORMANCE is as important or more important than only breeding a Pretty horse to another pretty horse.

Originally Posted by Lexy

Just wondering......... if you owned the above stallion, would you accept this mare for breeding?

If you owned the mare, would you consider breeding to the above stallion?

[doublebarr]

Originally Posted by Lexy

buzzzzzzzzzzz...... You lose DB.. Not by breeding her to Plaudit, but by NOT breeding her to Three Bars.

Depends on what you mean by lose! I don't like what they produced together. I didn't like their foals foals all that much either.

However, I would have crossed him on Della P and crossed that foal on Dandy Doll

[Top Dun]

There is that common statement to " NOT judge a book by it's cover " And the same thing applies in horses. I would only rarely base a breeding decision on a single photograph. And I already showed an example of the kind of horse I'd rule out immediately. I would NOT make ANY final breeding decision based soley on that photgraph. I WOULD want more information as to her Performance abilities and more photos.

Originally Posted by Lexy

LOL..... c'mon peeps. Would ya? I know it's not very fair asking for an answer without knowing anything about the horse other than what you see...... but this could be a good lesson for all of us to learn.

[doublebarr]

TD - that's Frontera Sugar.

And like I said, I'm not INTO racing QH's, so it wouldn't have been what I wanted.

But, TB crossed on Della P and that resulting foal crossed on Dandy Doll DID create a WONDERFUL oops, for the time.

[doublebarr]

Lexy - one thing you need to take into consideration. This is what I DO! I study QH lines in depth from before the beginnings of the AQHA or NQH associations and then factor them on up into todays horses.

Just because a "certian line" did certian things, does not mean that is what I am looking for in a QH. Racing lines mean NOTHING to me. Racing lines that also factored out to cow does ad value to them for me. Non racing lines (or VERY limited racing lines) that factored out to a lot of cow mean the world to me.

So nope, I and others don't look at them the same way other QH people might.

[Top Dun]

Well Like I said, breeding her to Three Bars would have made sense to me.

Originally Posted by doublebarr

TD - that's Frontera Sugar.

[Lexy]

Top Dun,

The mare is Frontera Sugar. She is the dam of Sugar Bars.

Sugar Bars

Breed: Quarter Horse
0042606
1951 Stallion sorrel

Hall of Fame; 1994 AQHA Inductee

1953: ROM Performance
Race money-earner: $3,166.00
SI:95 30/ 7-4-7
Halter Point Earner 2.0
Performance Point Earner 0.0

* World Champion Offspring
* Reserve World Champion Offspring
* Superior Halter Offspring
* Superior Performance Offspring
* AQHA Champion Offspring

[doublebarr]

An interesting side note:

One "racing line" that exhibited major cow as the line came down was Steeldust. That is the ONE racing line that will make me stand up and pay attention on just the name alone. So, I'm not saying that I would NEVER look at a TB influenced line, but that certian TB influenced lines work better for me than others because I'm not basing it off their "track" record, but rather their other performance records through generations.

[Timber_blaze]

I don't know who he is, either. I think his body looks nice, not spectacular, but I don't really like his expression. He looks kind of bored/almost mean. But like everyone else said, I would never breed just for looks. I would have to know what his personality is like. Nobody likes horses who are flashy lookers and holy terrors to work with. So why breed them?