[Sea Ha]

Originally Posted by belle4

Sea Ha,

I think it is great that you are wanting to expand you horizons and learn something new. How gracious you are to admit your lack of knowledge and do something about it. I also do not know much about the BLM and wild horses and how they are managed. Although I have been a member for quite some time here and have been involved with horses since I was a child, I never paid much attention to the BLM because wild horses just don't interest me all that much. I pay attention to the breeds and activities that interest me. It's impossible to be an expert in all areas of the horse industry.

Thank you BabyTex and Belle. Im trying. I will never pretend to know something I dont. And I hope to never stop learning.

I too focus on the areas of horses that effects my life more than that of the wild horses. I was upset and actually it is still upsetting to me about what's going on. Not that adoption is happening but because there is a need for it. But even still, I cant and wont put that infront of the aspects of horses that I need to know to live. I know that probably came out wrong in type but I dont know how to say what I mean.

[Sea Ha]

Originally Posted by HorseBroke

I still disagree with the "slammed" comment. Granted, it is difficult to know who is speaking on a forum such as this, but when I read coments like that from the poster in question, I personally try to err (with any judgement) on the side of youth and inexperience. Having visited this site for some time, I know there are many youngsters who frequently post here. Chances are, the poster who "shot from the hip" is a youngster. Having kids of my own, I know lessons learned through patience, explaination & educating are far more effective than the "slamming" method. Kids are often wrong and have a lot to learn. Personal attacks and condoning "slamming" are inappropriate and only tend to "slam shut" the open books that children are.

No horse broke. I am not a youngster. I am was unaware but will change that though

[HorseBroke]

Sea Ha:

Ok, but the same respect should really be shown to anyone that is perhaps not as informed, but clearly shows an interest to learn as you have. "Slamming" someone (of course in MY opinion) is a childish and arrogant act regardless of age, but especially reprehensible when done to a child as it shows a general lack of maturity and moderation.

[wyldterv]

Originally Posted by Sea Ha

You remember incorrectly. I am not a "professional" horseperson. I am a rancher's daughter and a rancher's wife now but no I myself am not a professional....

.... The need was brought on by developement. I wont be commenting more on it until Ive been able to find more indepth info.

ACTUALLY the NEED has been brought on by a couple of factors #1, Cattlemen leasing BLM PUBLIC lands for grazing (there are sheepmen with lease rights too but Cattlemen make up the majority of the grazing rights leases)! The #2 reason is that the Feral horse is NOT indiginous to N. America and has very FEW predators, combined with an ability to reproduce at an average of 20% increase in populace per year, you have to do SOMETHING...

The Cattlemen (and I'm NOT pro or con grazing rights, it's a difficult balance because we want to be able to buy meat at the grocery at an affordable price!) want the maximum amount of grazing available for the cattle and would like to see the majority of ALL the horses GONE since horses and Cattle are in direct competition for the same grazing lands. So it's not so much physical development since the Lands set aside are areas that most people would not choose to live, it is the grazing rights issues that cause such stringent management of the horses, balanced also against the need for indiginous plant and wildlife's survival as well.

Really if you're a rancher, regardless of what you raise, I'm rather surprised you're not more familiar with the Buearau of Land Management (BLM) but then again, maybe you're not involved in the day to day running of things, etc...

I've never lived on a real ranch in my life (I WISH ) but I do keep up with information as that's just my nature, I like to know as much as I can about the areas I enjoy spending time in

[Dawn]

The need is there simply because horses were brought to NA to begin with. Had they been left behind, there would be no mustangs, we wouldn't have the problem. So it is not because of progress and development. It is because of the horses themselves.

[Sea Ha]

Originally Posted by wyldterv

ACTUALLY the NEED has been brought on by a couple of factors #1, Cattlemen leasing BLM PUBLIC lands for grazing (there are sheepmen with lease rights too but Cattlemen make up the majority of the grazing rights leases)! The #2 reason is that the Feral horse is NOT indiginous to N. America and has very FEW predators, combined with an ability to reproduce at an average of 20% increase in populace per year, you have to do SOMETHING...

The Cattlemen (and I'm NOT pro or con grazing rights, it's a difficult balance because we want to be able to buy meat at the grocery at an affordable price!) want the maximum amount of grazing available for the cattle and would like to see the majority of ALL the horses GONE since horses and Cattle are in direct competition for the same grazing lands. So it's not so much physical development since the Lands set aside are areas that most people would not choose to live, it is the grazing rights issues that cause such stringent management of the horses, balanced also against the need for indiginous plant and wildlife's survival as well.

Really if you're a rancher, regardless of what you raise, I'm rather surprised you're not more familiar with the Buearau of Land Management (BLM) but then again, maybe you're not involved in the day to day running of things, etc...

I've never lived on a real ranch in my life (I WISH ) but I do keep up with information as that's just my nature, I like to know as much as I can about the areas I enjoy spending time in

I was involved as in having to work when I was young and before I left my father's place.

I do not take part in my husband's doings except I care for the horses here. For reasons of my own I dont deal with the stock unless I absolutly have to.

BLM is not organized in our state nor where I lived previously. Not that I can find YET anyways.

I did call a BLM phone number on the site and hope to hear back from them. It's not so easy to find much info with exeption of 2nd hand or vague stuff on the internet. But I am trying to find more still. This is why I made the call in hopes of them sending me articles and such or atleast pointing me in correct direction.

Honestly, I dont know why I am. Its not like Im interested in adopting.

[7HL]

http://www.blm.gov/nhp/


The Bureau of Land Management (BLM), an agency within the U.S. Department of the Interior, administers 261 million surface acres of America's public lands, located primarily in 12 Western States. The BLM sustains the health, diversity, and productivity of the public lands for the use and enjoyment of present and future generations.

BLM Mission:

It is the mission of the Bureau of Land Management to sustain the health, diversity and productivity of the public lands for the use and enjoyment of present and future generations.

Map: Public Lands Managed by the BLM

Maps are available online for viewing and downloading. Click on the filenames to view:

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Map of BLM administered jurisdictions, including: BLM-Administered Lands, BLM State Jurisdictions, BLM State Offices, BLM National Monuments, Field Office Jurisdictions, Field Offices, BLM National Conservation Areas, County Lines and Field Stations.

BLM Facts:

• The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) is responsible for managing 262 million acres of land--about one-eighth of the land in the United States--and about 300 million additional acres of subsurface mineral resources. The Bureau is also responsible for wildfire management and suppression on 388 million acres.
• Most of the lands the BLM manages are located in the western United States, including Alaska, and are dominated by extensive grasslands, forests, high mountains, arctic tundra, and deserts. The BLM manages a wide variety of resources and uses, including energy and minerals; timber; forage; wild horse and burro populations; fish and wildlife habitat; wilderness areas; archaeological, paleontological, and historical sites; and other natural heritage values.
• The Bureau of Land Management administers public lands within a framework of numerous laws. The most comprehensive of these is the Federal Land Policy and Management Act of 1976 (FLPMA). All Bureau policies, procedures and management actions must be consistent with FLPMA and the other laws that govern use of the public lands

History of the BLM

The BLM's roots go back to the Land Ordinance of 1785 and the Northwest Ordinance of 1787. These laws provided for the survey and settlement of the lands that the original 13 colonies ceded to the Federal government after the War of Independence.
As additional lands were acquired by the United States from Spain, France, and other countries, Congress directed that they be explored, surveyed, and made available for settlement. In 1812, Congress established the General Land Office in the Department of the Treasury to oversee the disposition of these Federal lands. As the 19th century progressed and the Nation's land base expanded further west, Congress encouraged the settlement of the land by enacting a wide variety of laws, including the Homesteading Laws and the Mining Law of 1872.

These statutes served one of the major policy goals of the young country-- settlement of the Western territories. With the exception of the Mining Law of 1872 and the Desert Land Act of 1877 (which was amended), all have since been repealed or superseded by other statutes.

The late 19th century marked a shift in Federal land management priorities with the creation of the first national parks, forests, and wildlife refuges. By withdrawing these lands from settlement, Congress signaled a shift in the policy goals served by the public lands. Instead of using them to promote settlement, Congress recognized that they should be held in public ownership because of their other resource values.

In the early 20th century, Congress took additional steps toward recognizing the value of the assets on public lands and directed the Executive Branch to manage activities on the remaining public lands. The Mineral Leasing Act of 1920 allowed leasing, exploration, and production of selected commodities such as coal, oil, gas, and sodium to take place on public lands. The Taylor Grazing Act of 1934 established the U.S. Grazing Service to manage the public rangelands. And the Oregon and California (O&C) Act of August 28, 1937, required sustained yield management of the timberlands in western Oregon.

In 1946, the Grazing Service was merged with the General Land Office to form the Bureau of Land Management within the Department of the Interior. When the BLM was initially created, there were over 2,000 unrelated and often conflicting laws for managing the public lands. The BLM had no unified legislative mandate until Congress enacted the Federal Land Policy and Management Act of 1976 (FLPMA).

In FLPMA, Congress recognized the value of the remaining public lands by declaring that these lands would remain in public ownership. Congress also gave us the term "multiple use" management, defined as "management of the public lands and their various resource values so that they are utilized in the combination that will best meet the present and future needs of the American people."


The BLM Today

Increasingly, the BLM has had to address the needs of a growing and changing West. Ten of the 12 western States with significant proportions of BLM-managed lands have among the fastest rates of population growth in the United States.

The American public values balanced use, conservation, environmental management, recreation, and tourism. Public lands are increasingly viewed from the perspective of the recreational opportunities they offer, their cultural resources, and--in an increasingly urban world--their vast open spaces. However, against this backdrop, the more traditional land uses of grazing, timber production, and mining are still in high demand.

The BLM's task is to recognize the demands of public land users while addressing the needs of traditional user groups and working within smaller budgets. Fortunately, the public, constituent groups, and other agencies and levels of government have proven eager to participate in collaborative decisionmaking. These diverse partners have joined with us in developing many partnerships that benefit the public lands and everyone who relies on them.

Perhaps one of the Bureau's greatest challenges today is to develop more effective land management practices, while becoming more efficient at the same time. We are proud of the significant steps we and our partners have already taken to reduce administrative costs, streamline work processes, focus on customer service, and improve accountability to the American people.

As the BLM is entering the 21st century, we look forward to continuing our service to the public while strengthening our partnerships with all who use or care about the public lands. Working together, all of us can succeed in restoring and maintaining the health, diversity, and productivity of America's public lands for the use and enjoyment of present and future generations.

[arabiangirl171]

Sea Ha, look at it this way. (I dont know if this is still true or not) but the government in Montana has stopped protecting the wild horses in Montana so they are basically getting caught and slaughtered. Now you tell me, would you rater have a nice home, or get a horrible life to end your days?

[riding_reaper]

We almost adopted a colt from one but decided not to.