When can you start breeding a stud colt?

defadiamond2 · 03-31-2005, 05:41 PM

I have a 9 year old QH mare and I was planning on breeding her next year. Well my friend has a 1 year old stud colt and I want to breed him to her. I just need to know how old a stud colt needs to be to start breeding. Please give any info!

Blistering Winds · 03-31-2005, 05:48 PM

On my stallions, we wait until they are preferrably over the age of 4 now.

Breeding is very exhausting on a stallion and they have to be very athletically fit or they literally can have a heart attack.

Questions....why do you want to breed your mare?

Why this stud colt?

BestofPrincess · 03-31-2005, 06:01 PM

bw is right

defadiamond2 · 03-31-2005, 06:03 PM

Thanks! I understand totally. I want to breed her because we want at least one baby out of her. She also is a great hunter undersaddle horse and we hope to pass it down to the baby. We wanted to use the little colt b/c he is beautiful and we really liked him. But I was not definite on him so thats fine. Thank you again.

prettyqtrs · 04-01-2005, 04:14 AM

Earliest age is 2.....then of course anything later than 2 years old. It depends on that particular stallion and his owner...some will not breed to outside mares the first year that he is being bred to mares, to see how is foals are. Some will breed to a few select outside mares to see how he crosses with other mares, and others will breed to outside mares the first time.

Best Wishes!

I LUV BESS · 04-01-2005, 04:43 AM

i think it depends on the stud- but def. not before 2!

good luck!

CowGirlUp1833 · 04-01-2005, 04:49 AM

I personally would not want to breed to an unproven stallion. If I were to breed I would not only want an outstanding mare, but I would want to breed to a stallion that not only has a great pedigree but also a proven show record and in an ideal situation, other foals on the ground that are out proving themselves as well.

Top Dun · 04-01-2005, 05:22 AM

I don't agree with breeding two year old stallions. I believe ANY stud needs time to be worked and respectable to humans. I believe ANY stud needs to by a using horse. Two year old is to young IMO for ANY horse to be bred Stallion OR mare. See my post about the mare quesition. Bones aren't finished being developed, Breeding IS stressful, and a stallion CAN learn Bad habbits Fast if not handled right. You need to spend the time to train the stallion, Figure out if his temperment will be suitable, He may seem like the little love puppy as a yearling, but he could potentially turn into a HOLY TERROR as a two year old when the testosterone starts pumping. I'm of the firm belief that MANY nice Studs wil makre AWESOME geldings. And I tend to be quick with the knife. If they are just not exceptional as a stud, they will be as a gelding.

I also don't agree that breeding to a "unproven" stud should always be avoided, If that were the case then many great horses would not be in existance today. However that part is a personal preference and it also depends on what you are breeding for.

Blistering Winds · 04-01-2005, 08:44 AM

Well, remember, PERFORMANCE is not highly inheritable. The ability to achieve those levels are, but the performance is affected by what the horse eats from day one, how he is handled, how well he was trained, how well his mind develops through all of this.

Second, if you plan on continuing the "hunter" ability, find another PROVEN hunter. Not this colt who you have no idea if he can even keep a level head, let alone JUMP a fence.

Don't just choose based on what he looks like as a yearling. he could be all conformationally WRONG as he develops, which is MORE heritable than performance.

You can purchase a horse sometimes cheaper, you get more of what you want, without taking the chances. at least consider it.

defadiamond2 · 04-01-2005, 10:13 AM

Thanks everybody I really appreciate your post. I think i will probably go with an older stallion that has been proven a great hunter horse. BW I did consider getting a cheap, already broke horse but i want a baby out of my horse. I have the mom, the daughter (the mare i want to breed) and would like to have the grand-daughter while the mom is still alive.
[/quote]Don't just choose based on what he looks like as a yearling. he could be all conformationally WRONG as he develops, which is MORE heritable than performance.[quote]

I agree with that. I usually dont go with the way a horse looks first but that sliped my mind when i saw this colt. I'm bad when it comes to stuff like that i get all excited and jump for the first thing.

Thanks again everybody for posting all that great information.

03-31-2005, 05:41 PM	#1
defadiamond2 Full Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North Carolina Posts: 96 Images: 3	When can you start breeding a stud colt? I have a 9 year old QH mare and I was planning on breeding her next year. Well my friend has a 1 year old stud colt and I want to breed him to her. I just need to know how old a stud colt needs to be to start breeding. Please give any info! __________________ ~Brittany~ ~ God Bless the mess out in the pasture!*~*

03-31-2005, 05:48 PM	#2
Blistering Winds Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Augusta, Kansas Posts: 31,870 Images: 822 Blog Entries: 17	On my stallions, we wait until they are preferrably over the age of 4 now. Breeding is very exhausting on a stallion and they have to be very athletically fit or they literally can have a heart attack. Questions....why do you want to breed your mare? Why this stud colt? __________________ HGS is a very powerful, addicting place that is just as bad as cigarettes, however healthier for you AND your horse.

03-31-2005, 06:01 PM	#3
BestofPrincess Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: USA MD Posts: 5,175 Images: 575 Blog Entries: 14	bw is right __________________ tjitske you never deserved to lose a foal 5/31/05 dolly we pray for you and your lost foal 7/26/05 Duct tape is the new glue

03-31-2005, 06:03 PM	#4
defadiamond2 Full Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North Carolina Posts: 96 Images: 3	Thanks! I understand totally. I want to breed her because we want at least one baby out of her. She also is a great hunter undersaddle horse and we hope to pass it down to the baby. We wanted to use the little colt b/c he is beautiful and we really liked him. But I was not definite on him so thats fine. Thank you again. __________________ ~Brittany~ ~ God Bless the mess out in the pasture!*~*

04-01-2005, 04:14 AM	#5
prettyqtrs Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,972	Earliest age is 2.....then of course anything later than 2 years old. It depends on that particular stallion and his owner...some will not breed to outside mares the first year that he is being bred to mares, to see how is foals are. Some will breed to a few select outside mares to see how he crosses with other mares, and others will breed to outside mares the first time. Best Wishes! __________________ ~Meg~ Poco Pine King "Poco" - '91 Sorrel Overo Paint Gelding * MF Bold as Gold "BG" - '95 Palomino QH Mare * Star Bucks Bonanza "Star" - '00 Buckskin QH Mare *** Mainly Deville "Deville" - '04 Dun QH Mare

04-01-2005, 04:43 AM	#6
I LUV BESS Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: uhhh... i think its somewhere called england lol Posts: 8,335 Images: 336	i think it depends on the stud- but def. not before 2! good luck! __________________ *♥Lepicure♥ ~Danielle~ ♥Pure Chance♥* ~♥~ Member of the eventing club ~♥~

04-01-2005, 04:49 AM	#7
CowGirlUp1833 Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Holland Lake Shore, West Michigan Posts: 16,032 Images: 384 Blog Entries: 33	I personally would not want to breed to an unproven stallion. If I were to breed I would not only want an outstanding mare, but I would want to breed to a stallion that not only has a great pedigree but also a proven show record and in an ideal situation, other foals on the ground that are out proving themselves as well. __________________ www.Equine-Endeavors.com "Horses are like potato chips - You can't have just one" ~Unknown Yay! I'm down to just 3 right now!! Those meetings must be helping!

04-01-2005, 05:22 AM	#8
Top Dun Senior Member+ Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,695 Images: 183 Blog Entries: 1	I don't agree with breeding two year old stallions. I believe ANY stud needs time to be worked and respectable to humans. I believe ANY stud needs to by a using horse. Two year old is to young IMO for ANY horse to be bred Stallion OR mare. See my post about the mare quesition. Bones aren't finished being developed, Breeding IS stressful, and a stallion CAN learn Bad habbits Fast if not handled right. You need to spend the time to train the stallion, Figure out if his temperment will be suitable, He may seem like the little love puppy as a yearling, but he could potentially turn into a HOLY TERROR as a two year old when the testosterone starts pumping. I'm of the firm belief that MANY nice Studs wil makre AWESOME geldings. And I tend to be quick with the knife. If they are just not exceptional as a stud, they will be as a gelding. I also don't agree that breeding to a "unproven" stud should always be avoided, If that were the case then many great horses would not be in existance today. However that part is a personal preference and it also depends on what you are breeding for. __________________ Cattle Producers DO NOT want NAIS: When asked if they thought NAIS should be a mandatory system requiring all U.S. cattle producers to participate, 21.22% of respondents said yes, 50.32% said no, and 28.46% were undecided.

04-01-2005, 08:44 AM	#9
Blistering Winds Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Augusta, Kansas Posts: 31,870 Images: 822 Blog Entries: 17	Well, remember, PERFORMANCE is not highly inheritable. The ability to achieve those levels are, but the performance is affected by what the horse eats from day one, how he is handled, how well he was trained, how well his mind develops through all of this. Second, if you plan on continuing the "hunter" ability, find another PROVEN hunter. Not this colt who you have no idea if he can even keep a level head, let alone JUMP a fence. Don't just choose based on what he looks like as a yearling. he could be all conformationally WRONG as he develops, which is MORE heritable than performance. You can purchase a horse sometimes cheaper, you get more of what you want, without taking the chances. at least consider it. __________________ HGS is a very powerful, addicting place that is just as bad as cigarettes, however healthier for you AND your horse.

04-01-2005, 10:13 AM	#10
defadiamond2 Full Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North Carolina Posts: 96 Images: 3	Thanks everybody I really appreciate your post. I think i will probably go with an older stallion that has been proven a great hunter horse. BW I did consider getting a cheap, already broke horse but i want a baby out of my horse. I have the mom, the daughter (the mare i want to breed) and would like to have the grand-daughter while the mom is still alive. [/quote]Don't just choose based on what he looks like as a yearling. he could be all conformationally WRONG as he develops, which is MORE heritable than performance.[quote] I agree with that. I usually dont go with the way a horse looks first but that sliped my mind when i saw this colt. I'm bad when it comes to stuff like that i get all excited and jump for the first thing. Thanks again everybody for posting all that great information. __________________ ~Brittany~ ~ God Bless the mess out in the pasture!*~*

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