What's the difference between foundation QTR horse & not foundation?

MelissaH · 06-22-2005, 03:40 PM

I was just wondering what's the difference. One of the horses at my daughters stable that I fell in love with was a foundation Qtr horse. He was big and black with a roman nose.

*BaRrEL_BaBE* · 06-22-2005, 03:41 PM

The amount of Thoroughbred blood in their pedigree.

AQHA_Gizmo · 06-22-2005, 03:43 PM

I've always wondered, too!

Blistering Winds · 06-22-2005, 03:44 PM

There are certain lines that were deemed the "FOUNDATION" of the Quarter horses.

A horse who is "foundation" has those horses in their lines, bred over and over again, with minimal TB or Appendix or other Qh's diluting the genetics.

www.nfqha.com

MelissaH · 06-22-2005, 03:44 PM

aawww....so which one has more TB? The stable owner said that QH once all had roman noses and that it was bred out of them.

Blistering Winds · 06-22-2005, 03:44 PM

www.fqha.com as well

booker81 · 06-22-2005, 03:45 PM

Foundations are QH's that have less than 20% TB in their blood, starting from 1940. Some big namers out there are not foundation, as the TB played a big role in QH's. They generally are stockier and heavier, but very capable horses.

Ther eis a registery out there www.nfqha.com

Blistering Winds · 06-22-2005, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Bob Denhardt on the founding of AQHA in 1940 . . ."We were looking for horses like Little Joe and Joe Moore, Ballymooney and Red Dog, Guinea Pig and Possum, Zantanon and King, Jack McCue and Bullet. They weren’t Thoroughbreds . . .and they didn’t look like Thoroughbreds. . . All were exceptionally well muscled, and it was probably this feature that first caught your eye.. . . these features were clearly characteristic of a breed. They were as unique in their conformation as they were in their ability to work cattle!"

from the site

those that had roman noses were THOROUGHBREDS!!!

Blistering Winds · 06-22-2005, 03:54 PM

OH, I think I know where your trainer might be thinking.

There was a foundation horse called Roman Nose!!

http://www.gaylordquarterhorses.com/index.html

Most "Foundation" quarter horses I've EVER seen have pretty heads. The ones with TB influence have the funky roman nose look to them.

MelissaH · 06-22-2005, 03:59 PM

This is the horse I fell in love with. Jay-Jay.

06-22-2005, 03:40 PM	#1
MelissaH Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 4,994 Images: 163 Blog Entries: 4	What's the difference between foundation QTR horse & not foundation? I was just wondering what's the difference. One of the horses at my daughters stable that I fell in love with was a foundation Qtr horse. He was big and black with a roman nose. __________________ So unless your normal riding route is a haven for wild tarps on the loose or domesticated tarps that someone has let off their leash, I'd give poor Dubie a break and let him have his one phobia.~Liz

06-22-2005, 03:41 PM	#2
BaRrEL_BaBE Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 2,874 Images: 75	The amount of Thoroughbred blood in their pedigree. __________________ (¯`•.¸DoN't l00k BacK¸.•´¯)

06-22-2005, 03:44 PM	#4
Blistering Winds Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Augusta, Kansas Posts: 31,678 Images: 811 Blog Entries: 16	There are certain lines that were deemed the "FOUNDATION" of the Quarter horses. A horse who is "foundation" has those horses in their lines, bred over and over again, with minimal TB or Appendix or other Qh's diluting the genetics. www.nfqha.com __________________ 20 lb club: New year Start: 175 Goal: 130 Current: 158 Total loss this year 17 lbs.

06-22-2005, 03:44 PM	#5
MelissaH Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 4,994 Images: 163 Blog Entries: 4	aawww....so which one has more TB? The stable owner said that QH once all had roman noses and that it was bred out of them. __________________ So unless your normal riding route is a haven for wild tarps on the loose or domesticated tarps that someone has let off their leash, I'd give poor Dubie a break and let him have his one phobia.~Liz

06-22-2005, 03:44 PM	#6
Blistering Winds Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Augusta, Kansas Posts: 31,678 Images: 811 Blog Entries: 16	www.fqha.com as well __________________ 20 lb club: New year Start: 175 Goal: 130 Current: 158 Total loss this year 17 lbs.

06-22-2005, 03:43 PM	#3
AQHA_Gizmo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Sittin' on a sidewalk in Freso...braided hair and a tye died t-shirt on... Posts: 3,948 Images: 11	I've always wondered, too!

06-22-2005, 03:45 PM	#7
booker81 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Crazy Weather Mittenland Posts: 85	Foundations are QH's that have less than 20% TB in their blood, starting from 1940. Some big namers out there are not foundation, as the TB played a big role in QH's. They generally are stockier and heavier, but very capable horses. Ther eis a registery out there www.nfqha.com

06-22-2005, 03:54 PM	#9
Blistering Winds Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Augusta, Kansas Posts: 31,678 Images: 811 Blog Entries: 16	OH, I think I know where your trainer might be thinking. There was a foundation horse called Roman Nose!! http://www.gaylordquarterhorses.com/index.html Most "Foundation" quarter horses I've EVER seen have pretty heads. The ones with TB influence have the funky roman nose look to them. __________________ 20 lb club: New year Start: 175 Goal: 130 Current: 158 Total loss this year 17 lbs.

06-22-2005, 03:59 PM	#10
MelissaH Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 4,994 Images: 163 Blog Entries: 4	This is the horse I fell in love with. Jay-Jay. Attached Thumbnails __________________ So unless your normal riding route is a haven for wild tarps on the loose or domesticated tarps that someone has let off their leash, I'd give poor Dubie a break and let him have his one phobia.~Liz

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