What was she doing...?!

Artrageous · 05-14-2008, 09:14 AM

my trainer uses a snaffle bridle and a surcingle to get her horse's headset. She did that with her daughters horse, and now with a slight bump of the reins, he drops his head and tucks it in. He IS a western pleasure horse, though.

imahorsefreak · 11-07-2008, 08:29 PM

I have used this on 2 of my horses on one he is a 16.2 paint and was worked to hard as a youngster and has stiff shoulders so my trainer told me to use it on him to barley bring his head in and get him on his front feet. I have also used this training method on my gymkhana horse because i am starting pleasure and jumping classes with her and it is working fabulouse on bringing her head in.

Berlunz · 11-07-2008, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by imahorsefreak

I have used this on 2 of my horses on one he is a 16.2 paint and was worked to hard as a youngster and has stiff shoulders so my trainer told me to use it on him to barley bring his head in and get him on his front feet. I have also used this training method on my gymkhana horse because i am starting pleasure and jumping classes with her and it is working fabulouse on bringing her head in.

sorry but this is actually a thread from several months ago

IIIBarsV · 11-08-2008, 02:53 PM

My opinion remains the same.

Most horses worked like this either get a broken neckline, or learn to go under the bit and evade it. It also *shortens* the front stride... halter *or* bridle. Horses can run sideways with their heads at the belly. They can easily tuck the nose into a headset and still continue to move heavy and not engage or lift. I lump this one into the same area as side reins, because I don't really like them much either unless they're fully-elastic blanket straps...

IIIBarsV · 11-08-2008, 02:58 PM

Fully engaged horse (Bennie

). He's never been worked in draw reins, elbow-tied, or sidereins (at least, not in probably 4 or 5 years- the old owners probably worked him in them). While he is looking down at the ground (scary shadow!), he's puffed himself right up with a combination of light leg, light hand, and forward motion. You just can't create that kind of glorious trot with a tiedown of any kind... you don't get the same "push" (aka impulsion) and spring in the step. Notice he's got one foot on the ground- the right hind. He really is pushing from behind!

05-14-2008, 09:14 AM	#11
Artrageous Full Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 215 Images: 25	my trainer uses a snaffle bridle and a surcingle to get her horse's headset. She did that with her daughters horse, and now with a slight bump of the reins, he drops his head and tucks it in. He IS a western pleasure horse, though. __________________ Alice: "I'll play you for it. Rock, paper, scissors." Edward: "Why don't you just tell me who wins?" Alice: "I do. Excellent."

11-08-2008, 02:53 PM	#14
IIIBarsV Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Eastern Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,376 Images: 27	My opinion remains the same. Most horses worked like this either get a broken neckline, or learn to go under the bit and evade it. It also shortens the front stride... halter or bridle. Horses can run sideways with their heads at the belly. They can easily tuck the nose into a headset and still continue to move heavy and not engage or lift. I lump this one into the same area as side reins, because I don't really like them much either unless they're fully-elastic blanket straps... __________________ Three Bars The Fifth Jags Fleeting Rocket Wish I'd Get Lucky Chipped In Stone Zip Code Bay B Suns Eternal Flame

11-08-2008, 02:58 PM	#15
IIIBarsV Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Eastern Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,376 Images: 27	Fully engaged horse (Bennie ). He's never been worked in draw reins, elbow-tied, or sidereins (at least, not in probably 4 or 5 years- the old owners probably worked him in them). While he is looking down at the ground (scary shadow!), he's puffed himself right up with a combination of light leg, light hand, and forward motion. You just can't create that kind of glorious trot with a tiedown of any kind... you don't get the same "push" (aka impulsion) and spring in the step. Notice he's got one foot on the ground- the right hind. He really is pushing from behind! __________________ Three Bars The Fifth Jags Fleeting Rocket Wish I'd Get Lucky Chipped In Stone Zip Code Bay B Suns Eternal Flame

11-07-2008, 08:29 PM	#12
imahorsefreak Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1	I have used this on 2 of my horses on one he is a 16.2 paint and was worked to hard as a youngster and has stiff shoulders so my trainer told me to use it on him to barley bring his head in and get him on his front feet. I have also used this training method on my gymkhana horse because i am starting pleasure and jumping classes with her and it is working fabulouse on bringing her head in.