What to do about backing up?

crazy4horses205 · 03-10-2006, 02:17 PM

I rode one of the new horses at the barn for training last night and she seemed to really like reverse lol. If she didn't want to move forward for some reason, she would just up and refuse to move forward. What do you do with a horse when they refuse to walk forward?

Super_Trooper · 03-10-2006, 02:28 PM

Turn them, make them move forward, dont let them resist by backing up.

Circle C · 03-10-2006, 02:31 PM

Do ANYTHING to make them move/work. Make the right thing easy and the wrong thing hard.

Shotgun93 · 03-10-2006, 02:33 PM

Disengage the hindend, yield the front end. Make it harder for them to not move forward.

crazy4horses205 · 03-10-2006, 03:11 PM

What do you mean by making it hard to not move forward and making it easier to move forward?

Shotgun93 · 03-10-2006, 03:22 PM

If she doesn't want to move forward, make her move every other direction. It takes a lot more work for a horse to disengage his hindquarters or cross over in the front then it is to just go forward.

So, give the option to go forward, if she doesn't take her, put her in circle, use indirect rein, smack her butt to get her to yield and make her go until she puts slack in the rein. When she does, release and ask her to go forward again. If sh choses not to, do the same thing again.

imacowgirl2 · 03-10-2006, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dancinglite

The rider can force more back up than what the horse wishes and it will soon become apparent to the horse that he is stuck in reverse. When the horse grows tired of this and the rider requests the horse to go forward and move off his legs then praise should be given. During this whole process any disengagement of the hind end will result in the horse NOT being able to respond to the forward drive. This method is used by most top dressage trainers.

That is what I do...MOST (every horse I have seen, except my friend's mare) horses usually get tired of backing for a really long time, as it is one of the harder directions for a horse to move -- its not natural for them.

crazy4horses205 · 03-10-2006, 07:38 PM

thanks everyone, I'll try those

MaggieSue · 03-10-2006, 08:25 PM

IME this horse has not had the proper training. The reason it backs up is because it's not been taught to go forward into the pressure of the bit, a big part of the training has been missed, and whoever 'trained' this horse needs to go back and 're-do' it! It's not your job to retrain this horse, the horse is confused and doesn't know what you want! Please realize that most trained horses will do what they have been trained to do...this one obviously wasn't trained to go forward. IF you try to force her, she will more than likely start rearing up with you, and you will get hurt.

crazy4horses205 · 03-10-2006, 09:19 PM

MS- yeah she is here at my barn for retraining, but the BO just wants as many people to just get on her and fool around and do weird things with her so that she is used to different people. It was only a couple instances that I wanted her to get into a different spot and she kept backing up so I was just wondering what to do when she does do that

03-10-2006, 02:17 PM	#1
crazy4horses205 Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 5,148 Images: 334 Blog Entries: 2	What to do about backing up? I rode one of the new horses at the barn for training last night and she seemed to really like reverse lol. If she didn't want to move forward for some reason, she would just up and refuse to move forward. What do you do with a horse when they refuse to walk forward? __________________ ~Rachel and Tobey~ RIP Cody my sweet boy "If you throw your heart over the fence, your horse will go after it." Join the HGS prayer chain!! I <3 Green Day http://www.myspace.com/rachel9012 I've been boo-ed

03-10-2006, 02:28 PM	#2
Super_Trooper Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: BC Canada Posts: 9,472 Images: 77	Turn them, make them move forward, dont let them resist by backing up. __________________ True commitment begins when you reach the point of not knowing how you could possibly go on, and deciding to do it anyway! http://b1.lilypie.com/mCKWm7/.png

03-10-2006, 02:31 PM	#3
Circle C Senior Member+ Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Meadville, Pennsylvania Posts: 3,329 Images: 2	Do ANYTHING to make them move/work. Make the right thing easy and the wrong thing hard. __________________ "All I pay my psychiatrist is the cost of feed and hay, and he'll listen to me any day." - AuthorUnknown "What it comes down to is that anybody can win with the best horse. What makes you good is if you can take the second or third-best horse and win." -Aragon, Vicky

03-10-2006, 02:33 PM	#4
Shotgun93 Senior Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Southwest SD Posts: 13,960 Images: 132	Disengage the hindend, yield the front end. Make it harder for them to not move forward. __________________ In the quiet light of the stable, you hear a muffled snort, the stamp of a hoof, a friendly nicker. Gentle eyes inquire, "How was your day old friend?" and suddenly, all your troubles fade away. -Author Unknown

03-10-2006, 03:11 PM	#5
crazy4horses205 Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 5,148 Images: 334 Blog Entries: 2	What do you mean by making it hard to not move forward and making it easier to move forward? __________________ ~Rachel and Tobey~ RIP Cody my sweet boy "If you throw your heart over the fence, your horse will go after it." Join the HGS prayer chain!! I <3 Green Day http://www.myspace.com/rachel9012 I've been boo-ed

03-10-2006, 03:22 PM	#6
Shotgun93 Senior Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Southwest SD Posts: 13,960 Images: 132	If she doesn't want to move forward, make her move every other direction. It takes a lot more work for a horse to disengage his hindquarters or cross over in the front then it is to just go forward. So, give the option to go forward, if she doesn't take her, put her in circle, use indirect rein, smack her butt to get her to yield and make her go until she puts slack in the rein. When she does, release and ask her to go forward again. If sh choses not to, do the same thing again. __________________ In the quiet light of the stable, you hear a muffled snort, the stamp of a hoof, a friendly nicker. Gentle eyes inquire, "How was your day old friend?" and suddenly, all your troubles fade away. -Author Unknown

03-10-2006, 07:38 PM	#8
crazy4horses205 Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 5,148 Images: 334 Blog Entries: 2	thanks everyone, I'll try those __________________ ~Rachel and Tobey~ RIP Cody my sweet boy "If you throw your heart over the fence, your horse will go after it." Join the HGS prayer chain!! I <3 Green Day http://www.myspace.com/rachel9012 I've been boo-ed

03-10-2006, 08:25 PM	#9
MaggieSue Senior Member+ Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,997 Images: 2	IME this horse has not had the proper training. The reason it backs up is because it's not been taught to go forward into the pressure of the bit, a big part of the training has been missed, and whoever 'trained' this horse needs to go back and 're-do' it! It's not your job to retrain this horse, the horse is confused and doesn't know what you want! Please realize that most trained horses will do what they have been trained to do...this one obviously wasn't trained to go forward. IF you try to force her, she will more than likely start rearing up with you, and you will get hurt.

03-10-2006, 09:19 PM	#10
crazy4horses205 Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 5,148 Images: 334 Blog Entries: 2	MS- yeah she is here at my barn for retraining, but the BO just wants as many people to just get on her and fool around and do weird things with her so that she is used to different people. It was only a couple instances that I wanted her to get into a different spot and she kept backing up so I was just wondering what to do when she does do that __________________ ~Rachel and Tobey~ RIP Cody my sweet boy "If you throw your heart over the fence, your horse will go after it." Join the HGS prayer chain!! I <3 Green Day http://www.myspace.com/rachel9012 I've been boo-ed

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