What makes a Buckskin a true Buckskin?

Peg D · 04-21-2006, 02:54 AM

I always thought that anything with the /black/tan markings would be a buckskin.
Not so.
There are variables. If it has a dorsal stripe or as some I believe call it line back? These are not buckskins. Are they then called dunskins?

And what about white on a buckskin without the stripe but has the black/tan markings?

Enlighten me please.

Goonhorse · 04-21-2006, 04:11 AM

A buckskin is the result of one cream gene acting on a bay. Therefore it lightens the body, but the points stay the same.
A dun (the actual dilution, like the cream gene), however, is a dilution or color modifier that works on reds and blacks. It lightens the body, but the points stay basically the same base color, only instead of gradually turning into the color of the body, they have the tiger stripes and dorsal stripe and other darker markings.

Hope that helps!

JBandRio · 04-21-2006, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Peg D

I always thought that anything with the /black/tan markings would be a buckskin.

At the very least it's a buckskin

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There are variables. If it has a dorsal stripe or as some I believe call it line back? These are not buckskins. Are they then called dunskins?

Don't confuse a true dorsal stripe, which is very sharply edged and runs from the mane though the tail and MUST exist in a dun, with countershading, which has fuzzy edges and doesn't usually run from mane though tale. Many bays (therefor buckskins) and chestnuts have countershading. But yes, if a bay horse has 1 dilute and 1 or 2 dun genes, then he is a dunskin.

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And what about white on a buckskin without the stripe but has the black/tan markings?

What do you mean by white? White stockings? White spots? That would just be the addition of Overo, Tobiano, or Sabino. You can have a buckskin who has white legs that extend far enough up to totally cover all the black he would normally have, but his mane and tail would still be black. You can have a bucskin who is a maximally expressed Sabino, therefore all white, and you'd have to verify his true color either by DNA or his parents colors if they are genetically known to be such that the only thing they can produce is buckskin.

Shotgun93 · 04-21-2006, 04:30 AM

there is a lot of good info on the buckskin registery page as well, you might find that helpful.

BestofPrincess · 04-21-2006, 08:43 AM

when they test for both the creme gene one copy, and the black gene, and the agoutie gene (at least one copy)

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Goonhorse Senior Member+ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: A Hawkeye (IA) in the land of Hoosiers (IN) Posts: 2,655 Images: 263 Blog Entries: 150	A buckskin is the result of one cream gene acting on a bay. Therefore it lightens the body, but the points stay the same. A dun (the actual dilution, like the cream gene), however, is a dilution or color modifier that works on reds and blacks. It lightens the body, but the points stay basically the same base color, only instead of gradually turning into the color of the body, they have the tiger stripes and dorsal stripe and other darker markings. Hope that helps! __________________ Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting. -Psalm 139:22-23

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Shotgun93 Senior Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Southwest SD Posts: 13,575 Images: 124	there is a lot of good info on the buckskin registery page as well, you might find that helpful. __________________ In the quiet light of the stable, you hear a muffled snort, the stamp of a hoof, a friendly nicker. Gentle eyes inquire, "How was your day old friend?" and suddenly, all your troubles fade away. -Author Unknown

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BestofPrincess Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: USA MD Posts: 5,175 Images: 575 Blog Entries: 14	when they test for both the creme gene one copy, and the black gene, and the agoutie gene (at least one copy) __________________ tjitske you never deserved to lose a foal 5/31/05 dolly we pray for you and your lost foal 7/26/05 Duct tape is the new glue

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