what is join up?

iluvmyhorsey05 · 09-09-2004, 02:56 PM

I don't know if this should be in the training forum if so sorry but here lately I've been hearing alot about join up and this might seem wierd to some of you but I have no idea what join up is

. I assume it's a way to get closer to your horse. If so how does it work? thanks!

Amanda

hay burner · 09-09-2004, 04:01 PM

okay im gonna try to find somewere on this forum i know is around i just dont feel like explaining it im the one wjho always explains it because that is our method here at Cooper farms

hay burner · 09-09-2004, 04:05 PM

OKay this is the one I found on here there is plenty of posts on this if you arent in full understanding

Join up is when you have the horse in the round pen. You keep him going either to the left or the right consistently. You look for signs like licking his lips, lowering his head. When your horse does this (sometimes it can take a while so be patient), then it's time to turn the horse. ALWAYS turn the horse towards you. It's very disrespectful for the horse to turn away from you.

The way you do this is: back up so that you are in front of the drive line (which is in front of the girth area); when the horse turns toward you move to the outside shoulder to encourage forward movement in the opposite direction; as soon as the horse moves in the direction you want, then you start all over again. If the horse moves away from you, get onto him...hit the ground with the whip and make him move back in the direction he was going. Make it uncomfortable for him to do the wrong thing. Then try again. Keep doing this until you get the horse turning and going forward consistently.

When the horse is paying attention to you, here's what you do next: act like you are going to turn the horse but instead of making the horse move off again say "whoa" you bakc up in front of the drive line. Now...when he is facing you turn sideways and start walking in an arc in front of the horse. Gradually get closer and closer (continue walking in an arc) until the horse starts to follow you. When the horse starts walking with you, stop and rub him and let him rest for a few seconds. Then start again until you get the horse following you and turning with you consistently. If you feel the horse is going to stop, then you stop first so that the horse will think it was your idea. If you allow the horse to stop then you are telling him that he doesn't really have to listen to you. Alwasy stop and rub the horse in the first few steps. This tells the horse that he is doing the right thing. And that he can rest with you. If your horse decides to wonder off, then you just let him go out there, but you start round penning him again. Make him go around a couple of times to show him that if he leaves you he has to work. Then join up with him again.

You probably want to do this for about 3 or 4 days until the horse respects you. After that, IO wouldn't do this anymore b/c horses can get "sour" in the round pen. B/C there's only so much you can do in there.

PLEASE NOTE: If you don't have a round pen...it's not the end of the world. Just have about a 14 foot lead rope (not a lounge line...I find they are too much to handle). Have a stick or whip, whichever you prefer. Do the same thing basically. Just point your hand in the direction you want the horse to go, swing the stick toward him w/o making contact, and then if he doesn't move...make contact with his neck until he takes a step forward. Remember: Make the wrong thing difficult and the right thing easy. Always reward the slightest try. Build up step by step. Don't ask for 10 or so steps until you get that first step.

Hope this helps. I have been training horses for a while now and these methods seem to be the easiest most fulfilling yet. If you need more info on this kind of thing...Clinton Anderson, PAt Parelli, Chris Cox, and Dennis Reis have some great articles and videos on the subject.

-Bekah-

P.S. If you ever want to chat about horse training you can AIM me at SunnyNBlaze.

iluvmyhorsey05 · 09-09-2004, 05:11 PM

Thank you for the information! I've actually done that once before but didn't realize it was called join up so thanks alot for the info! !

MissBandit · 09-09-2004, 07:46 PM

I posted this a few months ago. You might find it helpful.

http://www.horsegroomingsupplies.com...90&postcount=2

09-09-2004, 02:56 PM	#1
iluvmyhorsey05 Full Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Russell Co.,Alabama Posts: 271 Images: 12	what is join up? I don't know if this should be in the training forum if so sorry but here lately I've been hearing alot about join up and this might seem wierd to some of you but I have no idea what join up is . I assume it's a way to get closer to your horse. If so how does it work? thanks! Amanda

09-09-2004, 07:46 PM	#5
MissBandit Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 13,219 Images: 300 Blog Entries: 43	I posted this a few months ago. You might find it helpful. http://www.horsegroomingsupplies.com...90&postcount=2 __________________ Founder is the #2 killer of horses. Learn how to prevent, spot and treat this deadly disease. Emergency Treatment http://www.laminitisclinic.org

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09-09-2004, 04:01 PM	#2
hay burner Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kamloops Posts: 927	okay im gonna try to find somewere on this forum i know is around i just dont feel like explaining it im the one wjho always explains it because that is our method here at Cooper farms

09-09-2004, 04:05 PM	#3
hay burner Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kamloops Posts: 927	OKay this is the one I found on here there is plenty of posts on this if you arent in full understanding Join up is when you have the horse in the round pen. You keep him going either to the left or the right consistently. You look for signs like licking his lips, lowering his head. When your horse does this (sometimes it can take a while so be patient), then it's time to turn the horse. ALWAYS turn the horse towards you. It's very disrespectful for the horse to turn away from you. The way you do this is: back up so that you are in front of the drive line (which is in front of the girth area); when the horse turns toward you move to the outside shoulder to encourage forward movement in the opposite direction; as soon as the horse moves in the direction you want, then you start all over again. If the horse moves away from you, get onto him...hit the ground with the whip and make him move back in the direction he was going. Make it uncomfortable for him to do the wrong thing. Then try again. Keep doing this until you get the horse turning and going forward consistently. When the horse is paying attention to you, here's what you do next: act like you are going to turn the horse but instead of making the horse move off again say "whoa" you bakc up in front of the drive line. Now...when he is facing you turn sideways and start walking in an arc in front of the horse. Gradually get closer and closer (continue walking in an arc) until the horse starts to follow you. When the horse starts walking with you, stop and rub him and let him rest for a few seconds. Then start again until you get the horse following you and turning with you consistently. If you feel the horse is going to stop, then you stop first so that the horse will think it was your idea. If you allow the horse to stop then you are telling him that he doesn't really have to listen to you. Alwasy stop and rub the horse in the first few steps. This tells the horse that he is doing the right thing. And that he can rest with you. If your horse decides to wonder off, then you just let him go out there, but you start round penning him again. Make him go around a couple of times to show him that if he leaves you he has to work. Then join up with him again. You probably want to do this for about 3 or 4 days until the horse respects you. After that, IO wouldn't do this anymore b/c horses can get "sour" in the round pen. B/C there's only so much you can do in there. PLEASE NOTE: If you don't have a round pen...it's not the end of the world. Just have about a 14 foot lead rope (not a lounge line...I find they are too much to handle). Have a stick or whip, whichever you prefer. Do the same thing basically. Just point your hand in the direction you want the horse to go, swing the stick toward him w/o making contact, and then if he doesn't move...make contact with his neck until he takes a step forward. Remember: Make the wrong thing difficult and the right thing easy. Always reward the slightest try. Build up step by step. Don't ask for 10 or so steps until you get that first step. Hope this helps. I have been training horses for a while now and these methods seem to be the easiest most fulfilling yet. If you need more info on this kind of thing...Clinton Anderson, PAt Parelli, Chris Cox, and Dennis Reis have some great articles and videos on the subject. -Bekah- P.S. If you ever want to chat about horse training you can AIM me at SunnyNBlaze.

09-09-2004, 05:11 PM	#4
iluvmyhorsey05 Full Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Russell Co.,Alabama Posts: 271 Images: 12	Thank you for the information! I've actually done that once before but didn't realize it was called join up so thanks alot for the info! !