What is an adoption? rescue?

Chester · 05-17-2007, 01:37 AM

I am not sure if this is an over the pond problem or what. Nor is this aimed at any one person.

I see people posting pics of their newly adopted/rescued horses that do not look like they were in need of intervention.

Some of them need a good farrier, some need a bit of extra feed. Some look like they are someone elses loved mate.

Is it that it is popular to rescue/adopt horses so people like the feel good from saying it? Can't the same satisfaction be gotten from saying I bought a new horse, or I was given a new horse?

I have rescued a horse, Able. If I hadn't taken him when I did the poor fella would not have lasted another month. He was literally starving to death.

I have had other horses that when they have arrived have been light on in weight, had need of good farrier or behaviour issues. I do NOT see them as rescues. I see them as a horse I bought.

And why is it an adoption when you go to a place and buy a horse?

If I went to the dog pound and paid money for a dog, it would be see the dog I bought. Not the dog I adopted.

I just feel the misinterpretion of horses in need of rescuing could be hindered by the misnaming of the rescues.

Here a person who goes round buying cheap horses or being given them then reselling them is a DEALER, not a rescue.

Sorry, confusion reins on this subject.

cassidy · 05-17-2007, 01:40 AM

i no here some of the adoption places get the horse up together an ready for a new home so that a new owner doesnt get them when they were in a bad state but a healthy one...

becrog · 05-17-2007, 02:39 AM

well in my opinion a rescue is a horse in desperate need of care and nutrition, for the sake of its health/life and it doesnt make any difference if its paid for or not. (I paid £50 for mine to get it away from its neglecting owner)
An adoptee is a horse that has been taken on for free, not necissarily in bad condition.
In the UK you can adopt a horse from a center that may have rescued the horse or had it donated by an owner that cant care for or doesnt want it, They will get the horse up to health to be rehomed, you adopt the horse for free, but it always remains the legal property of the center so they can ensure its welfare!
But thats just how it works here

Chester · 05-17-2007, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by becrog

An adoptee is a horse that has been taken on for free, not necissarily in bad condition.
In the UK you can adopt a horse from a center that may have rescued the horse or had it donated by an owner that cant care for or doesnt want it, They will get the horse up to health to be rehomed, you adopt the horse for free, but it always remains the legal property of the center so they can ensure its welfare!
But thats just how it works here

Ahh, that here is a free lease. Thank you.

Catalina · 05-17-2007, 03:44 AM

I have adopted many dogs from kill shelters and yes, they do require that you pay and adoption fee to help cover vet bills while the dog was in their care. I still see it as a rescue from the miserable pound that would have put them to sleep if no one rescued them. Most people that adopt animals have to pay an adoption fee if they get them from a rescue group. This helps the rescues cover any costs that the animal required. Most rescues also try and get the animals as healthy as they can before they are put up for adoption.

PeggySue · 05-17-2007, 04:40 AM

I feel the same way SL... I get sick of hearing(seeing) people say look at my rescue I paid X number of dollars for it at the sale.. to me a rescue is a horse that you save from death yourself and a adoptation is one that takes place though a registered NFP center that has taken the horse and got it healthy.... SALE BARN HORSES ARE NOT EITHER OF THESE!!! Unless you buy after the sale from the kill buyer then you are rescueing it !!!

CowGirlUp1833 · 05-17-2007, 04:46 AM

I agree with you.... I guess there is different situations though.

I consider my old TB gelding to be a rescue. He was several hundred lbs underweight, severely needed a farrier and dentist, a good worming and was on his way to the auction with the intention to be sold for meat (tho as underweight as he was I'm not sure even the meat man would want him.

) He had also been abused and was fearful.

I do agree though that a lot of people throw around those terms loosely. However, I think anytime a horse is taken out of a less desirable situation and placed in a better one is a good thing.... so I guess I don't care what they call it as long as the horse gets the care it deserves.

Chester · 05-17-2007, 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catalina

I have adopted many dogs from kill shelters and yes, they do require that you pay and adoption fee to help cover vet bills while the dog was in their care. I still see it as a rescue from the miserable pound that would have put them to sleep if no one rescued them. Most people that adopt animals have to pay an adoption fee if they get them from a rescue group. This helps the rescues cover any costs that the animal required. Most rescues also try and get the animals as healthy as they can before they are put up for adoption.

Not all dogs are destroyed through pounds. I see pounds as a great place to buy a cheap dog. I can get a purebred without papers with all shots and desexing for less than $200 at one, far cheaper than buying one elsewhere.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeggySue

. SALE BARN HORSES ARE NOT EITHER OF THESE!!! Unless you buy after the sale from the kill buyer then you are rescueing it !!!

did you mean you are Not rescuing it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by CowGirlUp1833

I agree with you.... I guess there is different situations though.

I consider my old TB gelding to be a rescue. He was several hundred lbs underweight, severely needed a farrier and dentist, a good worming and was on his way to the auction with the intention to be sold for meat (tho as underweight as he was I'm not sure even the meat man would want him.

) He had also been abused and was fearful.

I do agree though that a lot of people throw around those terms loosely. However, I think anytime a horse is taken out of a less desirable situation and placed in a better one is a good thing.... so I guess I don't care what they call it as long as the horse gets the care it deserves.

I think your old TB was a rescue. Not all rescues come from sale barns or rescue organisations.

But some people may like to rescue my horses on the basis that they are not pampered critters. Even our show horses live out 24/7. Some people may think they need/deserve stables and such.

Catalina · 05-17-2007, 04:54 AM

Yes, I agree, horses bought from the sale barn are not rescue horses.

Catalina · 05-17-2007, 04:57 AM

[quote=chester]Not all dogs are destroyed through pounds. I see pounds as a great place to buy a cheap dog. I can get a purebred without papers with all shots and desexing for less than $200 at one, far cheaper than buying one elsewhere.

I know that not all pounds kill dogs, the ones that i rescued my dogs from did.

05-17-2007, 01:37 AM	#1
Chester Senior Member+ Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: inland of the coral sea Posts: 9,533 Images: 760	What is an adoption? rescue? I am not sure if this is an over the pond problem or what. Nor is this aimed at any one person. I see people posting pics of their newly adopted/rescued horses that do not look like they were in need of intervention. Some of them need a good farrier, some need a bit of extra feed. Some look like they are someone elses loved mate. Is it that it is popular to rescue/adopt horses so people like the feel good from saying it? Can't the same satisfaction be gotten from saying I bought a new horse, or I was given a new horse? I have rescued a horse, Able. If I hadn't taken him when I did the poor fella would not have lasted another month. He was literally starving to death. I have had other horses that when they have arrived have been light on in weight, had need of good farrier or behaviour issues. I do NOT see them as rescues. I see them as a horse I bought. And why is it an adoption when you go to a place and buy a horse? If I went to the dog pound and paid money for a dog, it would be see the dog I bought. Not the dog I adopted. I just feel the misinterpretion of horses in need of rescuing could be hindered by the misnaming of the rescues. Here a person who goes round buying cheap horses or being given them then reselling them is a DEALER, not a rescue. Sorry, confusion reins on this subject. __________________ Aussie Aussie Aussie OI OI OI "We're all members of the outback club, we don't back down and we don't give up" Lee Kernaghan "Good friends are worth more than money any day" Adam Brand Is it full moon time again? Did the cereal truck overturn and fruitloops got spilt?

05-17-2007, 01:40 AM	#2
cassidy Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2004 Location: england - its sunny sometimes honest! Posts: 21,498 Images: 816	i no here some of the adoption places get the horse up together an ready for a new home so that a new owner doesnt get them when they were in a bad state but a healthy one... __________________ May your life be like toilet paper - Long and useful A horse doesn't care how much you know until he knows how much you care. - Pat Parelli http://www.freewebs.com/linz88055/myprofile.htm

05-17-2007, 02:39 AM	#3
becrog Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Powys, Wales, UK Posts: 333 Images: 4	well in my opinion a rescue is a horse in desperate need of care and nutrition, for the sake of its health/life and it doesnt make any difference if its paid for or not. (I paid £50 for mine to get it away from its neglecting owner) An adoptee is a horse that has been taken on for free, not necissarily in bad condition. In the UK you can adopt a horse from a center that may have rescued the horse or had it donated by an owner that cant care for or doesnt want it, They will get the horse up to health to be rehomed, you adopt the horse for free, but it always remains the legal property of the center so they can ensure its welfare! But thats just how it works here __________________ Rebecca, Proud member of the FF club! Im in the tiffany fan club yay! (please dont tell my horses) The hardest part about learning to ride is the ground

05-17-2007, 04:46 AM	#7
CowGirlUp1833 Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Holland Lake Shore, West Michigan Posts: 16,003 Images: 384 Blog Entries: 33	I agree with you.... I guess there is different situations though. I consider my old TB gelding to be a rescue. He was several hundred lbs underweight, severely needed a farrier and dentist, a good worming and was on his way to the auction with the intention to be sold for meat (tho as underweight as he was I'm not sure even the meat man would want him. ) He had also been abused and was fearful. I do agree though that a lot of people throw around those terms loosely. However, I think anytime a horse is taken out of a less desirable situation and placed in a better one is a good thing.... so I guess I don't care what they call it as long as the horse gets the care it deserves. __________________ www.Equine-Endeavors.com "Horses are like potato chips - You can't have just one" ~Unknown Yay! I'm down to just 3 right now!! Those meetings must be helping!

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05-17-2007, 03:44 AM	#5
Catalina Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 21	I have adopted many dogs from kill shelters and yes, they do require that you pay and adoption fee to help cover vet bills while the dog was in their care. I still see it as a rescue from the miserable pound that would have put them to sleep if no one rescued them. Most people that adopt animals have to pay an adoption fee if they get them from a rescue group. This helps the rescues cover any costs that the animal required. Most rescues also try and get the animals as healthy as they can before they are put up for adoption.

05-17-2007, 04:54 AM	#9
Catalina Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 21	Yes, I agree, horses bought from the sale barn are not rescue horses.

05-17-2007, 04:57 AM	#10
Catalina Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 21	[quote=chester]Not all dogs are destroyed through pounds. I see pounds as a great place to buy a cheap dog. I can get a purebred without papers with all shots and desexing for less than $200 at one, far cheaper than buying one elsewhere. I know that not all pounds kill dogs, the ones that i rescued my dogs from did.