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Old 11-06-2006, 04:55 PM   #11
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A stallion may be of a certain registry but may not be approved for breeding by that particular registry. So a stallion may be of Hanovarian bloodlines but only approved for breeding by the Oldenberg NA for example. Therefore offspring of that horse cannot be approved for Hanovarian registration only those registries that have approved the stallion for breeding which in the example would be Oldenberg NA.

So it is not correct to call offspring by the example stallion as being Hanovarian they are Oldenberg; they cannot ever be registered as Hanovarians even though the staliion is of Hanovarian bloodlines. So in a way the warmblood is defined by whatever registry it is inspected, tested and approved for breeding by. The different registries have different criteria for their approvals, some with much higher standards and therefor more important than others. Here is an example of a stallion that is approved by several important registries. Can you guess what bloodlines he carries and what is his current/past approved breeding registry(s)?

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Thanks for the reply. ^^
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OK...well, now I have a question...would a trakehner/tb cross be a warmblood?
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A WB is called by whatever registry s/he is registered with, regardless of what registry s/he is approved for breeding with, if any at all. A mare registered with the Hano, approve for breeding with the Dutch and the Oldenburg NA registries, is and always will be a Hanoverian mare, never a Dutch or Old/NA.

A Trak x TB is a Trak cross, or a WB cross. Those F1 crosses are crosses. They may be registered with a WB registry, but being an F1 cross technically makes them a cross, not a WB.
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Old 11-06-2006, 09:04 PM   #15
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News -> Breeding -> Hanoverian -> 2006 -> Lauries Crusador xx, Hanoverian Stallion of the Year 2006

An example of a TB stallion whom is an approved Hanovarian breeding stallion.




A foal out of an uninspected/unapproved TB by an approved Trak stallion is eligible for the part Trak registry/inspection. If the TB is inspected and approved the foal maybe eligible for main book, same for Arab's in the Trak registry.

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Oh it just chaps my a** when I hear people say that a warmblood is a draft cross!
Thank you JBandRio for clearing all of that up.
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Old 11-08-2006, 02:54 PM   #17
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Alright, so tell me this.

Would the horse be a warmbloos if it's parents were a Clydesdale and a Thoroughbred?

Or how about a Percheron and an Arabian?

Or how about a Clydesdale and an Arabian?

I guess what i'm asking is, all you have to do it cross a cold-blooded and a hot-blooded to get a genuine warmblood? I know ya'll have tried to explain it already, but i'm still not getting it...
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my Warmblood

so i have a question too then.
somebody says "what kind of horse is he?" do you say warmblood or like irish warmblood or what? which would be more accurate?
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Old 11-08-2006, 03:17 PM   #19
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Alright, so tell me this.

Would the horse be a warmblood if it's parents were a Clydesdale and a Thoroughbred?

Or how about a Percheron and an Arabian?

Or how about a Clydesdale and an Arabian?

I guess what i'm asking is, all you have to do it cross a cold-blooded and a hot-blooded to get a genuine warmblood?...
Thats not what I would consider GENUINE warmblood. I think the current term for DraftX is "american warmblood". I call them Trendy Mutts.
I have a registered warmblood, cross. He is Hungarian (Furioso not Nonious) his father was 1/2 Arab 1/2 Hungarian, his dam was almost all Hungarian, some TB. Arab and TB are acceptable crosses in the Hungarian Studbook. However the result is not (in my case) a full Hungarian but a registered Partbred, who met registry (appendix) criteria.
IMO to get a bonafide warmblood, you either have to be breeding within a breed, or with acceptable crosses of the main breed studbook/ guidelines. Other than that, you get/ make "trendy mutts."
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Ah, I see. That helps! I am most interested in american warmbloods. Do you know of any registries for them that list which breeds are acceptable and such? I'm really eager to learn more about breeding them.
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