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    what I think of the PMU so called rescues

    1. Horses from Canada are being transported to the US and asking prices for a PMU horse is between 500 (rarely in fact from what I've seen) up to almost 2000 EACH. Not all the horses are quality registered horses either. Grade half draft half what evers are included in this. People who buy/rescue ARE supplementing the income of the PMU farmer. Because now due to the recents studies that have shown the possibility of women developing cancer from the drug. Demand for the drug has dropped so the farmers are not getting AS much income as they used to from the drug companies, BUT they are making more on the sale of their horses due to the publicity.

    2. People keep complaining about the 'unnecessary" slaughter of all these extra horses in the USA, BUT at the same time we are importing hunders to thousands of PMU horses FROM canada every year instead of taking care and finding homes for the unwanted horses in the USA. I can buy hundreds of navajo reservation mustangs for 60.00 for foals up to about 350 for adults. and these are starving horses who WILL go to the killer here in the USA because people want to import a so called rescue horse from Canada insead.

    3. By getting in with rescue organizations and by applying that sympahy card, " will be sent to slaughter if not sold" or "Saved from slaughter", the PMU farmers ARE getting your money to support their continued rampent breeding.

    4. People keep conplaining about all the unwanted horses and unnecessary extra breeding of horses and yet the PMU farmer can logically keep breeding every single mare every single year to make a drug that is going out of favor and no one complains about their rampent breeding?? Kind of a double standand in my book, Support the people who keep breeding more and more horses each year because they make money on a product of that animal and they " don't really care what happens to that animal" and yet people don't want to support that small local breeder to may only have one or two quality foals a year and who cares what happens to their horses.

    5. By NOT buying a PMU horse you make it less profitable for the farmer and therfore make it possible for them to reconsider their breeding objectives.


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    Please go visit NAERIC - North American Equine Ranching Council

    There's a lot of misinformation about PMU out there. Yes, the rescues are not truly rescuing anything. Except for the mares. Due to the massive shut downs there are many mares with no place to go.

    The fact is, VERY FEW PMU farms actually sell to rescues. Most raise quality, registered horses and sell privately or through NAERIC. PLEASE visit the web site. I worked in a PMU barn for 4 years, and my aunt and uncle used to own one. The MAJORITY of farmers DO care about the animals and breed good quality horses. In fact, many started out as regular farms and just added PMU in on the side. I know of many that produce cutting, reining, western performance horses and have done so for many years before introducing PMU into their programs.

    Also, the cut backs in PMU have been DRASTIC. They used to produce 30,000 foals annually. Now they produce 7,000.

    THOUSANDS of the barns have been shut down due to the synthetic drug. Including my aunt and uncle's. Luckily, they raise bucking stock and the shut down of the PMU aspect did not ruin them like it has some families.

    However, some women have adverse reactions to the synthetic drug and cannot use it. So some PMU is still neccesary.
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    I have visited the website, I've looked at PMU horses for sale and or rescue and I stand by my views.

    we still have websites like this listing 'REscues" and emphasize the 'Sympathy card" based on a rescue from slaughter.
    PMURescue.org
    Prism PMU Foals
    Welcome to Canyon Creek Farm. We are now a PMU acquisition, placement and training facility!
    PMU Rescue Organizations
    PMU Foals

    Im not saying that ALL PMU farmers should be shut down, they do serve a purpose, HOWEVER I'm saying that a lack of horse buying customers mighe make a few more drop out on continue to cut the numbers of bred horses each year. And really people here in the USA complaining about horses being sent to slaughter and then importing a horse from a different country in the guise of a rescue is just idiocy.


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    There are PMU farms in the Dakotahs as well. It is not just Canadian horses

    The thing is, having less a market for the foals will not shut down more barns. They have shut down over 3/4 of the barns that were in existance 3 years ago. They still need enough of the product to meet the demand from women who choose to take the natural vs. the synthetic version of the drug. And some women have no choice, they can NOT take the synthetic version. They either have very serious side effects, or it does not work at all for them.

    7,000 foals produced by PMU farms/year is nothing compared to other industries.

    NAERIC is doing it's best to get farmers to produce quality foals, and it is working. The NAERIC incentive program is awesome. Very few farms left create the draft crosses, however nobody knows this because it is only the draft crosses that end up at the rescues. For obvious reasons.

    I will agree that by "rescuing" a PMU foal, you are not really rescuing anything. However, some of the rescues deal with the mares as well. And those mares DO need rescuing. The massive cut backs have produced a flood of thousands of mares on the market. The PMU farmers can not afford to feed and keep these mares, and yet nobody is willing to give them any $$ for them. While most of them are halter broke, they are certainly not saddle broke. Even the slaughter houses will not buy them if they are pregnant. So yes, these mares do need homes.

    And many of them are the mares from the United States, in the Dakotahs.
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    I looked into getting a foal from canada, and it would have cost me 500 for the foal and 600 to transport....my ferrier told me that I could go to the fall sport horse sale, and get me a weanling for around 500...so why go and pay all that money for a foal that was raised in a pasture, when I can get one half the price, and it is imprinted at birth....I know it is an industry....one that I will not use...actually I refuse to use anything, to cheat my way through menapause......I will just have to go cold turkey....too many side effects with taking all them fancy drugs....Cathy
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    Granted there ARE PMU farms in the Dakotas, but you cannot dny that PMU horses From Canada are coming to the USA and being bought and put in the hands of people who complain about horse slaughter and rampent breeding of horses in the USA. Why by a foreign horse and the complain about the conditions of horses born and raised in the USA. That is the main point. Why should we 'Import more horses to rescue when we have enough of our own here?

    Horsefeathers Farms

    Canasota, NY
    Rescues foals from Canadian meat auction and adopts them to loving homes.

    Hope for Horses Equine Rescue, Inc.
    Blue Ridge, TX
    Dallas-based non-profit, does both local and PMU rescues. Dedicated to saving equine lives in US and Canada.

    PMU Horse Placement & Adoption
    Calgary, Alberta Canada

    Assisting Canadian ranchers with placement of good registered and grade horses.


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    I am not disputing that at all. I know Canadian horses end up down there, and yes I do agree it is hypocritical. And no, buying a foal from those rescues is not rescuing. It's buying a foal.

    I do not agree with those rescues either, they make a lot of cash off the foals as well. I am just stating that not all PMU horses are garbage, and there are some in the States as well.
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    1. Never stated that all were garbage those are your words not mine. I said
    Not all the horses are quality registered horses either. Grade half draft half what evers are included in this.
    2. I never said that there were NOT pmu farms in the USA. I said instead
    BUT at the same time we are importing hunders to thousands of PMU horses FROM canada every year instead of taking care and finding homes for the unwanted horses in the USA.
    And finally you notice that I said
    PMU so called rescues


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    A neighbor just got a 2 year old clyde cross pmu, she traded a saddle and 500 bucks for him, she had him at a show that I attended to take photos, he has only been under saddle for 3 months she bragged...this horse was at least 17 hands, and she off handedly said "yeah his knees arn't even closed yet" yet she rode him in 4 or 5 under saddle classes, and the judge was really working them, as there were so many in the class...I felt for that poor baby, he needs another year to grow up before having to do that kind of work (she was showing hunter under saddle, all classes plus pleasure too) I never worked my 3 year old 1/4 that much.....shakes head....now I know why Sneakers, had bad knees and ringbone so young .....Cathy
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    Quote Originally Posted by xiphias21034
    I looked into getting a foal from canada, and it would have cost me 500 for the foal and 600 to transport....my ferrier told me that I could go to the fall sport horse sale, and get me a weanling for around 500...so why go and pay all that money for a foal that was raised in a pasture, when I can get one half the price, and it is imprinted at birth....I know it is an industry....one that I will not use...actually I refuse to use anything, to cheat my way through menapause......I will just have to go cold turkey....too many side effects with taking all them fancy drugs....Cathy
    I'm not arguing for or against this but I think the drugs are not just for women going through menapause....some women (like my mother) must take some form of it because of ongoing health issues. My mother had a hysterectomy (sp) when she was about 25 (this was about 30 years ago) and she had to be on premerine or some other similar drug or she would have all the symptoms of menopause and worse for years. They did not have the synthetic option at the time.

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