What do you think was discovered first?

arabgirl15 · 06-22-2005, 05:59 PM

Yes it does SunBun. I believe Arab was the firstest. (I just graduated Pre-K heh)

SunBun · 06-22-2005, 09:37 PM

Thought so.

Lil.Red-Enza · 06-23-2005, 08:16 AM

I think arabians...just because I do =) No real sturdy reason but I have heard it before.

onwegolover · 06-23-2005, 10:49 AM

i think arabians

JumpsxGlory · 06-23-2005, 10:58 AM

Arabians. They are the oldest known breed on the planet. The Arabian is also the bases to many breeds today.

Sandra-A1 · 06-23-2005, 11:18 AM

Okay People, time to stir this discussion up a bit.....

Are your decisions based on legend, "hear-say", breed publicity & promotion materials or..... scientific FACT?

According to the information I found online:

Arabian horses first appeared in the Arabian Peninsula at least 2,500 years B.C.E.

The Akhal-Teké has been bred and raced for at least 3000 years.
Excavations in southern Turkmenistan have uncovered skeletal remains of tall, fine-boned horses dating back to 2400 BC. The breed name, however, dates back only to the end of the nineteenth century.

harli36 · 06-23-2005, 12:03 PM

Personally I think that the AHA stretches the truth a little bit in order to better publicize their breed. I think that while the Arabian is most certainly one of the oldest breeds I don't think they are THE oldest. Take the Akhal-Teké for instance, they are a documented older breed. But do you hear about them being so? No, because the AHA says THEY are the oldest breed and their aren't enough Akhal-Teke people over here to put up the stink that they are in fact the oldest.

Now I won't argue with you that the Arabian pedigree may be documented better, I don't know enough about the breed to argue that. I also think the AHA exagerates a little when they say the Arab is the most influential, what about all the horses that influenced the Arab wouldn't they be the most influential?

I also think a lot of the problem lies with fans of the breed who say their horse is the oldest, just because it gives them something extra to brag about. Isn't there enough to brag about already?

I LUV BESS · 06-23-2005, 12:15 PM

arabian...?

arabiangirl171 · 06-23-2005, 12:42 PM

If it was the Akhal Teke, then what other breed would the Arabian have come from?? Akhal Teke x ? =Arabian?? Or they could have found some other horse and called it an arabian, I don't know. As seaside said up there, There were other breeds that came after the arabian and that's how the other breeds came along.

Dawn of Sandman · 06-23-2005, 09:54 PM

Horses actuially evolved from things that have four claws, and were smaller than a dog. . .I was reading up on it the other day, it was interesting!

As for which came first, it was the arab. Almost all horse breeds are somewhat derived from the arab, actually. there's a little bit of arab in all of us

View Poll Results: What do you think??
Arabian	44	75.86%
Akhal-Teke	11	18.97%
Other/neither (please state)	3	5.17%
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06-22-2005, 05:59 PM	#11
arabgirl15 Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: SW Minnesota Posts: 3,223 Images: 69 Blog Entries: 16	Yes it does SunBun. I believe Arab was the firstest. (I just graduated Pre-K heh) __________________ Monica To be believed, make the truth unbelievable. Napoleon Bonaparte

06-23-2005, 08:16 AM	#13
Lil.Red-Enza Senior Member+ Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario CANADA! Posts: 1,678 Images: 64	I think arabians...just because I do =) No real sturdy reason but I have heard it before. __________________ ILoveMyLittleQuarterHorse Red<3Axel<3Love

06-23-2005, 10:58 AM	#15
JumpsxGlory Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 9,406 Images: 1130 Blog Entries: 2	Arabians. They are the oldest known breed on the planet. The Arabian is also the bases to many breeds today. __________________ "Success will only come to the dressage rider who wins the friendship of his/her four-legged partner and turns him into a ally"~Alois Podhajsky 100% D-R-E-S-S-A-G-E Carpe Diem (Ollie) Dressage Gelding

06-23-2005, 11:18 AM	#16
Sandra-A1 Senior Member+ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 9,170 Images: 257	Okay People, time to stir this discussion up a bit..... Are your decisions based on legend, "hear-say", breed publicity & promotion materials or..... scientific FACT? According to the information I found online: Arabian horses first appeared in the Arabian Peninsula at least 2,500 years B.C.E. The Akhal-Teké has been bred and raced for at least 3000 years. Excavations in southern Turkmenistan have uncovered skeletal remains of tall, fine-boned horses dating back to 2400 BC. The breed name, however, dates back only to the end of the nineteenth century. __________________ "It is our choices Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." ~Dumbledore Last edited by Sandra-A1; 06-23-2005 at 12:29 PM. Reason: typos

06-23-2005, 10:49 AM	#14
onwegolover Full Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 140 Images: 2	i think arabians

06-23-2005, 12:03 PM	#17
harli36 Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: northeastern Pa Posts: 4,732 Images: 45	Personally I think that the AHA stretches the truth a little bit in order to better publicize their breed. I think that while the Arabian is most certainly one of the oldest breeds I don't think they are THE oldest. Take the Akhal-Teké for instance, they are a documented older breed. But do you hear about them being so? No, because the AHA says THEY are the oldest breed and their aren't enough Akhal-Teke people over here to put up the stink that they are in fact the oldest. Now I won't argue with you that the Arabian pedigree may be documented better, I don't know enough about the breed to argue that. I also think the AHA exagerates a little when they say the Arab is the most influential, what about all the horses that influenced the Arab wouldn't they be the most influential? I also think a lot of the problem lies with fans of the breed who say their horse is the oldest, just because it gives them something extra to brag about. Isn't there enough to brag about already? __________________ The Morgan Horse! Everything else is just a horse. http://www.morganhorse.com/

06-23-2005, 12:15 PM	#18
I LUV BESS Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: uhhh... i think its somewhere called england lol Posts: 8,732 Images: 438	arabian...? __________________ *~Danielle~* ~♥~ Lepicure; Cambridge Paramour; Midnight Dancer; Pure Chance ~♥~ EventingFTW

06-23-2005, 12:42 PM	#19
arabiangirl171 Senior Member+ Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: in my guitar amp, it's quite comfy in here. Posts: 1,107 Images: 25	If it was the Akhal Teke, then what other breed would the Arabian have come from?? Akhal Teke x ? =Arabian?? Or they could have found some other horse and called it an arabian, I don't know. As seaside said up there, There were other breeds that came after the arabian and that's how the other breeds came along. __________________ WET PAINT This is not an instruction

06-23-2005, 09:54 PM	#20
Dawn of Sandman Senior Member+ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Da'Loops Posts: 657 Images: 67	Horses actuially evolved from things that have four claws, and were smaller than a dog. . .I was reading up on it the other day, it was interesting! As for which came first, it was the arab. Almost all horse breeds are somewhat derived from the arab, actually. there's a little bit of arab in all of us __________________ If we all tried to fix ourselves a little bit more, and others a little bit less, we'd all be a little bit better for it. I've been snowballed..