What do you think of this guy!?

devilishjumper · 10-29-2009, 12:53 PM

So since I am having quite a bit of trouble finding exactly what I want in a horse, which is: a very nice young prospect that could have a some upper level jumper potential.
It seems I just need a bit bigger budget than I have which is $5,000-$7000
SO I have been looking at a lot of thoroughbreds that are off the track. My last horse was off the track and every horse I have ever trained for my trainer has been OTTB so a very familiar territory for me! It'll save me some money too.

So... What do you think of this guy?
http://www.rerun.org/newjersey.html
The first one on the page... Heartbreakin love
I'll have to be more forgiving in what I want but who know's he could turn out to have what it takes!
So any glaring conformation faults in there? I e-mailed the owner, awaiting reply...

rizzodm · 10-29-2009, 01:04 PM

Can't tell from those pics.

Dawn

vxf111 · 10-29-2009, 01:59 PM

I think you can find what you want in your budget if you look around. Not too long ago I bought the easiest, broke 3 year old I've ever seen, papered Hanoverian, big, pretty, talent for the A's (and a super good mover)... in that price range. I do hunters, so he's a hunter project-- not a jumper. I actually think hunters are generally MORE expensive...

It took some looking and some patience, but it's out there in your price range. The best way to find it is not through online ads but through word of mouth. Tell your trainer, vet, farrier-- everyone, to spread the word. You gotta' keep your eyes peeled, work all your connections, and don't even bother with junk/something that doesn't fit your requirements. Really be sure about what you want and go looking for that in specific.

What is it, exactly, that you want/need/can't have? Make a really, really concrete list. I'll ask around for you (I'm in the area where your trainer is) if you tell me precisely what it is that you want.

That being said, I think a ReRun OTTB is not a bad idea and they will certainly be honest/forthright with you about the horse and his talents/abilities. Is adoption something you want, rather than ownership!?

devilishjumper · 10-30-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by vxf111

Is adoption something you want, rather than ownership!?

What do you mean? If you adopt a horse do you not own it?

vxf111 · 10-30-2009, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by devilishjumper

What do you mean? If you adopt a horse do you not own it?

Double check, but I *believe* that is ReRun's policy. They adopt out horses, which means you can have them to ride/use/enjoy but you can't later sell them. Check out the website, maybe I am wrong. That's my recollection of how ReRun's program works.

vxf111 · 10-30-2009, 09:11 AM

Hmm... their website could really be better in terms of providing information about the limits of their adoption program! Maybe you should call them and ask.

Okay, this article states that when you adopt from ReRun, you must keep the horse for 2 years and THEN you have title and can sell it if you need to...

http://hubpages.com/hub/ReRun-Gives-...-Lease-on-Life

I would call and confirm, for sure, if that's going to impact your decision. As much as I love what ReRun and CANTER (and similar organizations do)-- I personally am not okay with not having ownership of my horses. If something awful happened and I had to sell them for financial reasons, I want to be able to. And if it's just not working out etc., I want control over their next home. But that's me. Maybe adoption the way ReRun handles it would work for you. I don't know. It's kind of an individual thing.

devilishjumper · 10-30-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by vxf111

Double check, but I *believe* that is ReRun's policy. They adopt out horses, which means you can have them to ride/use/enjoy but you can't later sell them. Check out the website, maybe I am wrong. That's my recollection of how ReRun's program works.

Oh you're right. Rerun has a 2 year care agreement. Which any horse I get I would hope to have for 2 years... unless we really didn't get along. Then again things happen so you never know! However, this horse is just "listed" and not part of the program so maybe he is just for-sale and there is no contract.

Thanks so much for pointing that out!

vxf111 · 10-30-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by devilishjumper

Oh you're right. Rerun has a 2 year care agreement. Which any horse I get I would hope to have for 2 years... unless we really didn't get along. Then again things happen so you never know! However, this horse is just "listed" and not part of the program so maybe he is just for-sale and there is no contract.

Thanks so much for pointing that out!

Oh, that's great! Their website could REALLY be clearer

He has "adoption fee $1000" in his ad, which makes me think he's part of the adoption program.

sarahhowen · 11-03-2009, 07:22 AM

Based on the pictures on the website I *think* he could have a lot of potential altough a lot of this is going to be linked to his attitude, trainability and willingness to learn.

He looks like he needs to learn to relax more and to come down into the contact more which is a common problem as I'm sure you are aware with ex racers.

If you have the experience to retrain this chappie then I would go and see him in person - once you have qualified his sale status as highlighted above.

equineeventer33 · 11-03-2009, 05:07 PM

I couldnt see the pictures but what about some of these?

http://www.equine.com/horses-for-sal...max_price=7000

http://www.equine.com/horses-for-sal...price=7000&p=2

http://www.equine.com/horses-for-sal...price=7000&p=2

http://www.equine.com/horses-for-sal...price=7000&p=2

http://www.equine.com/horses-for-sal...price=7000&p=2

10-29-2009, 12:53 PM	#1
devilishjumper Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pennslyvania USA Posts: 2,268 Images: 122	What do you think of this guy!? So since I am having quite a bit of trouble finding exactly what I want in a horse, which is: a very nice young prospect that could have a some upper level jumper potential. It seems I just need a bit bigger budget than I have which is $5,000-$7000 SO I have been looking at a lot of thoroughbreds that are off the track. My last horse was off the track and every horse I have ever trained for my trainer has been OTTB so a very familiar territory for me! It'll save me some money too. So... What do you think of this guy? http://www.rerun.org/newjersey.html The first one on the page... Heartbreakin love I'll have to be more forgiving in what I want but who know's he could turn out to have what it takes! So any glaring conformation faults in there? I e-mailed the owner, awaiting reply... __________________ ~Kim~

11-03-2009, 07:22 AM	#9
sarahhowen Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cheshire, UK Posts: 980 Images: 71	Based on the pictures on the website I think he could have a lot of potential altough a lot of this is going to be linked to his attitude, trainability and willingness to learn. He looks like he needs to learn to relax more and to come down into the contact more which is a common problem as I'm sure you are aware with ex racers. If you have the experience to retrain this chappie then I would go and see him in person - once you have qualified his sale status as highlighted above. __________________ Proud "mum" to her three beautiful girls (mares) Tally, Maria and Varla

10-29-2009, 01:04 PM	#2
rizzodm Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Central Valley CA Posts: 356 Images: 4	Can't tell from those pics. Dawn

10-29-2009, 01:59 PM	#3
vxf111 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 353	I think you can find what you want in your budget if you look around. Not too long ago I bought the easiest, broke 3 year old I've ever seen, papered Hanoverian, big, pretty, talent for the A's (and a super good mover)... in that price range. I do hunters, so he's a hunter project-- not a jumper. I actually think hunters are generally MORE expensive... It took some looking and some patience, but it's out there in your price range. The best way to find it is not through online ads but through word of mouth. Tell your trainer, vet, farrier-- everyone, to spread the word. You gotta' keep your eyes peeled, work all your connections, and don't even bother with junk/something that doesn't fit your requirements. Really be sure about what you want and go looking for that in specific. What is it, exactly, that you want/need/can't have? Make a really, really concrete list. I'll ask around for you (I'm in the area where your trainer is) if you tell me precisely what it is that you want. That being said, I think a ReRun OTTB is not a bad idea and they will certainly be honest/forthright with you about the horse and his talents/abilities. Is adoption something you want, rather than ownership!?

10-30-2009, 09:11 AM	#6
vxf111 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 353	Hmm... their website could really be better in terms of providing information about the limits of their adoption program! Maybe you should call them and ask. Okay, this article states that when you adopt from ReRun, you must keep the horse for 2 years and THEN you have title and can sell it if you need to... http://hubpages.com/hub/ReRun-Gives-...-Lease-on-Life I would call and confirm, for sure, if that's going to impact your decision. As much as I love what ReRun and CANTER (and similar organizations do)-- I personally am not okay with not having ownership of my horses. If something awful happened and I had to sell them for financial reasons, I want to be able to. And if it's just not working out etc., I want control over their next home. But that's me. Maybe adoption the way ReRun handles it would work for you. I don't know. It's kind of an individual thing.

11-03-2009, 05:07 PM	#10
equineeventer33 Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Carolina Posts: 382	I couldnt see the pictures but what about some of these? http://www.equine.com/horses-for-sal...max_price=7000 http://www.equine.com/horses-for-sal...price=7000&p=2 http://www.equine.com/horses-for-sal...price=7000&p=2 http://www.equine.com/horses-for-sal...price=7000&p=2 http://www.equine.com/horses-for-sal...price=7000&p=2