What do think about his feet?

APatchOfHeaven · 06-26-2008, 05:59 AM

I took these pictures of my pony's feet the other day. He had his feet done a little over a month ago. I think he needs them done again, but the last time he went 3 months in between.

I wish it was always like that. haha. But, I think it was because different farriers did him? I think this time I will let the 'girl farrier' trim him since he went so long in between when she did. Ever since I took his shoes off I have been worried about his feet. They were chipping pretty badly when I first took them off, and the farrier gave me a rasp to just touch them up myself - I don't trust myself to do that. Hah. Anyway, here are pictures...

I just realized that they aren't very good pictures.

I will try to get new ones today.

JBandRio · 06-26-2008, 08:13 AM

There is quite a bit that I would like to see changed, and if this group of farriers have been working on him for any length of time, it may be time to find a new one. You can clearly see how the growth is very curved in the lines in the hoof, with bruising showing up at the height of that curve. The heels are quite tall, which is causing, or at least not helping the chipping you are seeing. He's not just overdue for a trim, he's long overdue for a GOOD trim, sorry

APatchOfHeaven · 06-26-2008, 10:17 AM

Will the way his feet are now hurt him in any way? Other than making the chipping worse?
Can you help me to explain to the farrier what I want to make it better?

All I know about horses' feet is what people tell me and apparently that's not a lot.

JBandRio · 06-26-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by APatchOfHeaven

Will the way his feet are now hurt him in any way? Other than making the chipping worse?

Any time you have a foot that is out of balance, as these are, and the longer they stay that way, the more likely there are to be negative repurcussions in the rest of the body. High heels like this can lead to navicular issues. Long toes (not the issue here) can increase the risk of a bowed tendon, and can for sure start to lead to hock and back problems (and more).

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Can you help me to explain to the farrier what I want to make it better?

All I know about horses' feet is what people tell me and apparently that's not a lot.

Time to start learning

It should not be your job to tell your farrier how to do his job. If he's the one who got the feet into this condition, or received them in his care in this condition and hasn't managed to get them out of this condition, then he isn't doing you any services.

Grab a drink and a comfy chair, and start reading and comparing pictures to your horse's feet
www.barefoothorse.com - one of my favorite for helping people see the differences between good feet and the different types of unhealthy ones
www.ironfreehoof.com
www.hopeforsoundness.com

APatchOfHeaven · 06-26-2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JBandRio

Any time you have a foot that is out of balance, as these are, and the longer they stay that way, the more likely there are to be negative repurcussions in the rest of the body. High heels like this can lead to navicular issues. Long toes (not the issue here) can increase the risk of a bowed tendon, and can for sure start to lead to hock and back problems (and more).

Time to start learning

It should not be your job to tell your farrier how to do his job. If he's the one who got the feet into this condition, or received them in his care in this condition and hasn't managed to get them out of this condition, then he isn't doing you any services.

Grab a drink and a comfy chair, and start reading and comparing pictures to your horse's feet
www.barefoothorse.com - one of my favorite for helping people see the differences between good feet and the different types of unhealthy ones
www.ironfreehoof.com
www.hopeforsoundness.com

Thanks for the links.

How would you explain to me what needs to be done if I was doing it? Lol. Doesn't have to be in depth. Do I just need to tell her to take off more heel?

APatchOfHeaven · 06-26-2008, 12:32 PM

I just read this..

"PG2, # 13 a & b

Here is a pony's very overgrown front foot, before and after a trim.
What looks like a long heel (after trim) is in fact just right on a pony; the heel height is about the same on every size of foot, from pony to draft horse. You can see some toe flare on both photos. I would use a toe rocker for several trims, to "back up" the toe. After that, given the shape of a pony foot, it's probably not needed for correct breakover."

Before

After

Keep in mind my pony is 13 hands.

APatchOfHeaven · 06-26-2008, 06:05 PM

Bump. Two of the three farriers at my farm are coming tomorrow morning. More opinions would be appreciated. =]

Dawn · 06-26-2008, 06:07 PM

It's difficult to tell anything from the angle pictured.

However, it does appear as if his entire hoof form is long, and is headed towards a rather boxy shape. There seems to be some flaring evident. And there is also jamming in at least one foot.

winski · 06-26-2008, 06:19 PM

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And there is also jamming in at least one foot.

What is jamming?

Dawn · 06-26-2008, 06:23 PM

Look at this photo.

See how the lines on the foot curve upward through the quarter? Then look at the hair line and see how the coronary band has been pushed upward by the displaced hoof wall.

That is jamming.

06-26-2008, 05:59 AM	#1
APatchOfHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 661 Images: 81	What do think about his feet? I took these pictures of my pony's feet the other day. He had his feet done a little over a month ago. I think he needs them done again, but the last time he went 3 months in between. I wish it was always like that. haha. But, I think it was because different farriers did him? I think this time I will let the 'girl farrier' trim him since he went so long in between when she did. Ever since I took his shoes off I have been worried about his feet. They were chipping pretty badly when I first took them off, and the farrier gave me a rasp to just touch them up myself - I don't trust myself to do that. Hah. Anyway, here are pictures... I just realized that they aren't very good pictures. I will try to get new ones today.

06-26-2008, 08:13 AM	#2
JBandRio Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NC Posts: 21,270 Images: 129 Blog Entries: 12	There is quite a bit that I would like to see changed, and if this group of farriers have been working on him for any length of time, it may be time to find a new one. You can clearly see how the growth is very curved in the lines in the hoof, with bruising showing up at the height of that curve. The heels are quite tall, which is causing, or at least not helping the chipping you are seeing. He's not just overdue for a trim, he's long overdue for a GOOD trim, sorry __________________ - JB Acres, owned and operated by Dynamite animals. - It's a wonder horses as a whole don't just kill us all and be done with their misery. - Keep your voice soothing and low - even when things get western (buck1173) - Rio feels good - he bounced an in-and-out

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06-26-2008, 10:17 AM	#3
APatchOfHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 661 Images: 81	Will the way his feet are now hurt him in any way? Other than making the chipping worse? Can you help me to explain to the farrier what I want to make it better? All I know about horses' feet is what people tell me and apparently that's not a lot.

06-26-2008, 12:32 PM	#6
APatchOfHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 661 Images: 81	I just read this.. "PG2, # 13 a & b Here is a pony's very overgrown front foot, before and after a trim. What looks like a long heel (after trim) is in fact just right on a pony; the heel height is about the same on every size of foot, from pony to draft horse. You can see some toe flare on both photos. I would use a toe rocker for several trims, to "back up" the toe. After that, given the shape of a pony foot, it's probably not needed for correct breakover." Before After Keep in mind my pony is 13 hands.

06-26-2008, 06:05 PM	#7
APatchOfHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 661 Images: 81	Bump. Two of the three farriers at my farm are coming tomorrow morning. More opinions would be appreciated. =]

06-26-2008, 06:07 PM	#8
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 29,584 Images: 1283	It's difficult to tell anything from the angle pictured. However, it does appear as if his entire hoof form is long, and is headed towards a rather boxy shape. There seems to be some flaring evident. And there is also jamming in at least one foot.

06-26-2008, 06:23 PM	#10
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 29,584 Images: 1283	Look at this photo. See how the lines on the foot curve upward through the quarter? Then look at the hair line and see how the coronary band has been pushed upward by the displaced hoof wall. That is jamming.