What do think about his feet?

APatchOfHeaven · 06-26-2008, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawn

That is jamming.

What causes in and what harm - if any - does it do? How can it be fixed?

Dawn · 06-26-2008, 06:31 PM

Generally speaking it would be caused by the hoof wall in that location being longer than the hoofwall around the rest of the foot. Or excessive forces being placed on that spot.

APatchOfHeaven · 06-26-2008, 06:40 PM

Do you agree with what JB said too? I just want some 'guidelines' as to what kind of changes should be made so I can tell the blacksmith what I want.

Dawn · 06-26-2008, 06:52 PM

Yes, I do agree with what she's said.

Unfortunately, it's not a very fair situation for us to judge as the pony was left to go so long without trimming and has only had one trim since then. It's likely that the feet were in a state that they simply could not be corrected in one trim.

APatchOfHeaven · 06-26-2008, 07:00 PM

He didn't need to be trimmed. He went so long because his feet were not growing very fast/working was wearing them down as they were growing.

And I have been pretty anal about his feet being in good shape. I have asked people (Like the BO and instructors) what they thought about his feet and if shoes should be put back on, etc, and they said they were fine. They never mentioned any of these things. I remember a loong time ago - like over a year ago - my trainer said that he had a lot of heel, but didn't say that it was bad? Idk it was a while ago.

Dawn · 06-26-2008, 07:05 PM

Just because they might not have been long doesn't mean that they weren't unbalanced. Trimming isn't always about taking length off of the foot.

I have a very hard time convincing myself that the issues we're seeing here happened in the past 4 weeks.

If he was wearing them down so well for the previous 3 months, what happened this past month to cause that to stop?

APatchOfHeaven · 06-26-2008, 07:14 PM

I don't know. A different farrier did him this time and they trim a lot differently IMO. That may have something to do with it. I am no expert. I expect the farrier to do what is best for his feet - that's their job. He has never had any problems - no lameness - except for a day or two after we pulled his shoes and one time when he had shoes the girl put the nail in the wrong place and he was a little ouchy.

I will take pictures again before and after the farrier does him if I remember.

Dawn · 06-26-2008, 07:15 PM

What do the farriers do that is different?

APatchOfHeaven · 06-26-2008, 07:18 PM

Anyway, I know that it is hard to be very detailed over the net as you haven't seen his feet in person, but once again (with what you can see) what should be done to fix these problems?

I looked at two of the sites JB provided, and I posted something that was similar to my pony's feet and it says that is normal for a pony. (See quote above)

Dawn · 06-26-2008, 07:19 PM

The photo you posted from the site does look fairly normal for a pony. But they look nothing like the photos you posted of your own pony.

Again, with the angle of the pictures, it's hard to say anything with any real certainty.

And a lot depends on if the farrier has caused or allowed these problems. Or if it's a product of going 12 weeks without trimming.

All in all, you shouldn't have to tell your farrier how to do their job. Discuss options with them, yes. Voice concerns, yes. But when you have to tell them how to do their job, something needs to be done (imho).

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06-26-2008, 06:31 PM	#12
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 30,219 Images: 1328	Generally speaking it would be caused by the hoof wall in that location being longer than the hoofwall around the rest of the foot. Or excessive forces being placed on that spot.

06-26-2008, 06:40 PM	#13
APatchOfHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 697 Images: 81	Do you agree with what JB said too? I just want some 'guidelines' as to what kind of changes should be made so I can tell the blacksmith what I want.

06-26-2008, 06:52 PM	#14
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 30,219 Images: 1328	Yes, I do agree with what she's said. Unfortunately, it's not a very fair situation for us to judge as the pony was left to go so long without trimming and has only had one trim since then. It's likely that the feet were in a state that they simply could not be corrected in one trim.

06-26-2008, 07:00 PM	#15
APatchOfHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 697 Images: 81	He didn't need to be trimmed. He went so long because his feet were not growing very fast/working was wearing them down as they were growing. And I have been pretty anal about his feet being in good shape. I have asked people (Like the BO and instructors) what they thought about his feet and if shoes should be put back on, etc, and they said they were fine. They never mentioned any of these things. I remember a loong time ago - like over a year ago - my trainer said that he had a lot of heel, but didn't say that it was bad? Idk it was a while ago.

06-26-2008, 07:05 PM	#16
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 30,219 Images: 1328	Just because they might not have been long doesn't mean that they weren't unbalanced. Trimming isn't always about taking length off of the foot. I have a very hard time convincing myself that the issues we're seeing here happened in the past 4 weeks. If he was wearing them down so well for the previous 3 months, what happened this past month to cause that to stop?

06-26-2008, 07:14 PM	#17
APatchOfHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 697 Images: 81	I don't know. A different farrier did him this time and they trim a lot differently IMO. That may have something to do with it. I am no expert. I expect the farrier to do what is best for his feet - that's their job. He has never had any problems - no lameness - except for a day or two after we pulled his shoes and one time when he had shoes the girl put the nail in the wrong place and he was a little ouchy. I will take pictures again before and after the farrier does him if I remember.

06-26-2008, 07:15 PM	#18
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 30,219 Images: 1328	What do the farriers do that is different?

06-26-2008, 07:18 PM	#19
APatchOfHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 697 Images: 81	Anyway, I know that it is hard to be very detailed over the net as you haven't seen his feet in person, but once again (with what you can see) what should be done to fix these problems? I looked at two of the sites JB provided, and I posted something that was similar to my pony's feet and it says that is normal for a pony. (See quote above)

06-26-2008, 07:19 PM	#20
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 30,219 Images: 1328	The photo you posted from the site does look fairly normal for a pony. But they look nothing like the photos you posted of your own pony. Again, with the angle of the pictures, it's hard to say anything with any real certainty. And a lot depends on if the farrier has caused or allowed these problems. Or if it's a product of going 12 weeks without trimming. All in all, you shouldn't have to tell your farrier how to do their job. Discuss options with them, yes. Voice concerns, yes. But when you have to tell them how to do their job, something needs to be done (imho).