Triple Crown Complete

AQHA1972 · 01-23-2008, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dawn

Even though he is not presenting 'typical' stress symptoms (which most people are looking for stress symptoms that people would exhibit, not horses, he is presenting at least some equine typical stress symptoms, so you might want to rethink that), his situation is one that is going to lend itself to quite a bit of stress.

Limited turnout (6 hours is great, but it's not a lot)
High grain diet
Young horse
In training
Showing/changing environments

All potential stressors in horses.

His stress symptoms are hard keeping, 'wild' energy, and cribbing.

I think that the TC Complete would be a good product to try on him. It might work, it might not. I would also put him on some sort of digestive supplement (either an antiacid product and/or a prebiotic (which the Complete does contain prebiotic sources in the formulation, so that will help some)), and get him on more turnout if at all possible.

Dawn, Im sorry that you feel he is stressed. He is not. He is not "in training", not sure where you got that from. He is shown maybe 7 times a year and its never over night. I dont think that running and playing more than usual is "wild" energy. I think I would know if he was stressed....this isnt my first rodeo.......

dancer · 01-23-2008, 02:43 PM

We feed it and have had nothing but good results from it. Our horses love it. Alex and Buster are the only 2 eating it now, the other 2 are on Triple Crown Low Starch.

AllAroundRdr · 01-23-2008, 04:27 PM

I used to feed Ultium, when it first came out, after feeding Triple Crown, I won't touch it

endurgirl · 01-24-2008, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AllAroundRdr

I used to feed Ultium, when it first came out, after feeding Triple Crown, I won't touch it

Triple crown complete or senior? I think those are what are sold at the tC dealers here.

Arabians4ME · 01-24-2008, 10:49 AM

Have you ever thought of having him scoped for ulcers? That might help solve your dilema. It's not terribly expensive either. I have had several horses done and it's cheaper to do that and/or treat for ulcers and in the logn run healthier and possibly cheaper.

Does that make sense? My way with words really stinks these days.

Dawn · 01-25-2008, 06:37 AM

I'm sorry you don't realize that he is possibly stressed.

Cribbing is one of the major symptoms of stress (I'm not saying that all horses that crib are stressed but rather that a lot of horses that are stressed crib). Along with limited turnout and a high grain diet, and with ridden work (I'm sorry that I took what you said to mean in training (being ridden for that many hours a week and in showing made it sound like he was in training)), he's at a high risk for stress and ulcers.

AQHA1972 · 01-25-2008, 08:38 AM

Dawn....he's been turned out 24/7 before and he still cribs. Ridden 5 hours a week is a lot to you???? He does worse being kept outside then he does being stalled. He was a cribber before I bought him, and as you and I both know, that once a cribber always a cribber. Not all horse like being outside in the elements if they are used to being warm and dry.

DarkChylde · 01-25-2008, 08:49 AM

I would highly recommend ANY Triple Crown feed. I use Senior myself, and our gelding was a bit of a hard keeper till I found it, and he couldn't look better!

Edited to add- Btw, imho cribbing is more a sign of boredom.... I personally recommend full turnout if possible, solves lots of issues.... I read a fascinating article (somewhere) about cribbing coming from being weaned too early.

Arabians4ME · 01-25-2008, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AQHA1972

Dawn....he's been turned out 24/7 before and he still cribs. Ridden 5 hours a week is a lot to you???? He does worse being kept outside then he does being stalled. He was a cribber before I bought him, and as you and I both know, that once a cribber always a cribber. Not all horse like being outside in the elements if they are used to being warm and dry.

We too have a cribber that cribs more when she's outside than she does when she is in. I can totally sympathize with you on that.

Have you ever considered the surgery? Iknow many people have mixed emotions about it on here, so do I, just thought I'd ask though.

AQHA1972 · 01-25-2008, 09:34 AM

4me, I have heard that the surgery is not worth the risk. Many are not cured with the surgery and it can leave their neck deformed. It really doesnt bother me that he cribs. If the barn would let me, I would take the collar off of him. So many people freak out about cribbing, I used to as well, until I owned one. Its not a big deal to me.

01-23-2008, 02:43 PM	#22
dancer Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,107 Images: 451 Blog Entries: 2	We feed it and have had nothing but good results from it. Our horses love it. Alex and Buster are the only 2 eating it now, the other 2 are on Triple Crown Low Starch. __________________ DANCER, BUDDY, ALEX, BUSTER Beau ~1986-2007 RIP baby, I love you I've been snowballed--x4! And BAMBOOZLED by the monkey gang!

01-23-2008, 04:27 PM	#23
AllAroundRdr Senior Member+ Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Southern CA - The Land of Fires & Shakey Ground Posts: 3,640 Images: 26	I used to feed Ultium, when it first came out, after feeding Triple Crown, I won't touch it __________________ People say riding isn't a sport...Well you see, the 'ball' I play with has a mind of its own. I've been Goosed..and I LIKED it!

01-24-2008, 10:49 AM	#25
Arabians4ME Senior Member+ Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Blountville, TN Posts: 4,528 Images: 1216	Have you ever thought of having him scoped for ulcers? That might help solve your dilema. It's not terribly expensive either. I have had several horses done and it's cheaper to do that and/or treat for ulcers and in the logn run healthier and possibly cheaper. Does that make sense? My way with words really stinks these days. __________________ Jamie Unttouchable, Muscaskaia, Kararose, Karizmuh, Anteiaa's Legacy, Cassie, Rebel, Tab, Romance, Penny, and Ace! I'll never forget you WA-Whimsey, Cody, Nici, FF Anteiaa, and my beloved Pete.

01-25-2008, 08:49 AM	#28
DarkChylde Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: foothills of Virginia Posts: 317	I would highly recommend ANY Triple Crown feed. I use Senior myself, and our gelding was a bit of a hard keeper till I found it, and he couldn't look better! Edited to add- Btw, imho cribbing is more a sign of boredom.... I personally recommend full turnout if possible, solves lots of issues.... I read a fascinating article (somewhere) about cribbing coming from being weaned too early. __________________ whirled and inner peas, Darkchylde Life is a journey. There is no destination.

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01-25-2008, 06:37 AM	#26
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 31,484 Images: 1390	I'm sorry you don't realize that he is possibly stressed. Cribbing is one of the major symptoms of stress (I'm not saying that all horses that crib are stressed but rather that a lot of horses that are stressed crib). Along with limited turnout and a high grain diet, and with ridden work (I'm sorry that I took what you said to mean in training (being ridden for that many hours a week and in showing made it sound like he was in training)), he's at a high risk for stress and ulcers.

01-25-2008, 08:38 AM	#27
AQHA1972 Senior Member+ Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 2,599	Dawn....he's been turned out 24/7 before and he still cribs. Ridden 5 hours a week is a lot to you???? He does worse being kept outside then he does being stalled. He was a cribber before I bought him, and as you and I both know, that once a cribber always a cribber. Not all horse like being outside in the elements if they are used to being warm and dry.

01-25-2008, 09:34 AM	#30
AQHA1972 Senior Member+ Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 2,599	4me, I have heard that the surgery is not worth the risk. Many are not cured with the surgery and it can leave their neck deformed. It really doesnt bother me that he cribs. If the barn would let me, I would take the collar off of him. So many people freak out about cribbing, I used to as well, until I owned one. Its not a big deal to me.