[Acme Acres]

Originally Posted by PeggySue

Get ahold of them quick he is only shiping seman to 20 outside mares in 2007 and it says the book is almost full!!! If you call her instead of your dad you will prob get a better deal!!! I will have to see if I can find some pics of her OLD horses!! and the place we lived in Iowa to veiw where she is now you wouldn't believe it ..

BTW her and her hubby are the founders of barrelhorse.com adn he is seen on Horse City.com all the time

20 mares? That's an aweful lot for a stallion's 1st season.

[gotta a horse]

I do like the palomino that was just recently posted. I also like this boy; however, I don't know if they do AI or if he has barrel bloodlines...I'll have to find their website.
Poco Rowdy Lighting Quarter Horse

[PeggySue]

Originally Posted by Acme Acres

20 mares? That's an aweful lot for a stallion's 1st season.

I don't think they are doing any live covers... I didn't see anything about live cover on the web site at all...says they are cutting his breeding season short to campainge his barrel career

[Acme Acres]

Doesn't really matter HOW they breed them, I just think that's a very big chance to have a stallion be a flop rather than breeding 1/2 that many and making sure they're the cream of the crop. We stood a Grulla QH stud and his owner bred him to 20-30 mares his first year. The foals are OK, but nothing spectacular and they'll be a dime a dozen.

[minnie_mouse]

then it baffles me why you suggested looking at PROVEN TB's. you wanted speed, and the TB's that usually give speed have the exact opposite conformation of what your looking for. i would suggest just looking at some uphill speed QH's,(which you are) as they will tend to have more of the conformation you are looking. i highly doubt you will find a PROVEN TB with the conformation you desire.

Originally Posted by lucky_pine

Miinie, even though those studs are wonderful, they will not cross with my mare at all. Looking at the stud compared to Babe, they have almost the same back. Longish, and yes, downhill even in the slightest. My goal, speed or not, to be 100% honest, is to put a foal on the ground with the best conformation possible. As you can obviously tell, given she's a paint mare and I'm not looking at colored studs, color means nothing to me.
Why is conformation everything to me? Speed or not?
So I can get this foal off my hands if I no longer want it. Conformation will sell. Color will, yes. And if I find a colored stud I like (which I haven't yet) well heck, now we have an even better deal. So conformation is down.
Now throw speed in the pot. Not only speed, but the conformation to do just about anything. We've got a barrel horse, who is thick, but not as thick as Baby. Still has the halter "look" but not quite halter. But who is an all around horse. who has confo.
Throw some bloodlines in there.

And we have a VERY marketable baby on my hands.
Yes, when it comes of age, it will be BARREL trained. Speed is a MUST. But I WILL NOT sacrifice conformation for speed.
My mare has straight legs. Wonderful. She's over in one knee but very slightly. Straight kneed stud will fix that. Otherwise, the only thing I do not like about her, and will be fixed if I'm VERY PICKY (which I am) about the stud, is her back. It's not very long, but longer than I'd like to see on a barrel horse. She's downhill, not by much but still downhill. Get a level toplined stud and it will help that area.
She has the speed. She has the agility. She is a cat around barrels and anything you put in her path. Throw some sprinter lines in there to ADVANCE the speed that's already there...
and by the time I'm done with it I should have a very marketable barrel baby.
Thoroughbred, QH, Paint whatever. If it has the talent and excells in the areas my mare lacks, which is also her thickness, I'll go for it.
My problem is I cannot find a stud that I like. That's it. I don't care if it's a Thoroughbred, QH, Paint. As long as it has confo where she lacks, and is also strong in her areas, and it has speed and lines, I'll consider it. I can't find one though.
And trust me, I've looked. I've spent days and nights looking for the stud. Can't find one.

I'll not breed her if I can't find the stud I'm looking for. I'm not going to throw a mediocre foal on the ground. Absolutely not.

[TrueColoursFarm]

I was going to say the palomino stallion posted looked a little light, frame wise, but if he is a younger stallion, that makes perfect sense then

I quite like him for a youngster and I think in another 2-3 years once he fully matures, he is going to be a very very nice stallion indeed ...

[Lou3]

As far as what you want to do is concerned I think the first horse is your bet.
The second's pedigree is not so spectacular in the more recent generations, the thirs has purely terrible conformation and the 4th is poor in his conformation in the front end (particularly that neck - yuch)

[lucky_pine]

Originally Posted by TrueColoursFarm

I was going to say the palomino stallion posted looked a little light, frame wise, but if he is a younger stallion, that makes perfect sense then

I quite like him for a youngster and I think in another 2-3 years once he fully matures, he is going to be a very very nice stallion indeed ...

I agree and I'm more than happy to wait another 2-3 years to see him fully mature before making my decision. I have all the time in the world (well, not exactly)

[Little Red Dun]

Here's another stud that might interest you. He's somewhat local to me (in Florida) and I found him on a local site.

http://www.muirhavenfarm.com/STALLION/tabid/98/Default.aspx

He seems to have the lines you want, and his conformation looks decent. He seems to have what you want, though I'm not 100% certain about the uphill build. They have lots of pictures and in some he looks uphill, and in others just slightly downhill, but then he's fairly young (foaled 2003).

Still, he's a handsome boy and seems to have some good lines and some nice incentives to bred to him. He also has a few foals on the ground (some pictures on the site) so you can see what he's producing.

[lucky_pine]

Red Dun, he is nice. But again, not for my mare. His back bothers me, yet again. Everything else is lovely and he's another I'd like to see in another year or so.