[aBreeze]

Originally Posted by ryu2832

or this guy: houston

I like him a lot.

I plan on breeding my girl to him.

just thought Id throw that out there.

[Friesiangirl]

Have you looked at a firewater flit relitive? Or jet of honor? Both fast and well put together.....


Like these:


DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 763424


DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 892096

DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 936907
(he's apendix)

[lilrider]

First one is downhill. Second two are ok but not thoroughbreds like she said she was wanting.

Originally Posted by Friesiangirl

Have you looked at a firewater flit relitive? Or jet of honor? Both fast and well put together.....


Like these:


DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 763424


DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 892096

DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 936907
(he's apendix)

[3WishesDun]

Originally Posted by lilrider

Minnie both of those guys look like they are downhill and she definatley doesn't want a downhill stallion. Thats why she is looking at Thoroughbreds as so many of the stockhorses over here are downhill.

I think that you will find that many speed horses, especially sprinters, have a more downhill build and are often longer in the back. They generally possess a steeper pelvis and rump with longer hindquarters.

LP I think it is possible to find a horse that excells in more than one discipline. But I do also believe that there are certain traits that one finds in the top horses of each discipline that would not be sought after outside that specific realm. It will probably end up being a compromise of the best of both worlds.

[minnie_mouse]

Originally Posted by lilrider

Minnie both of those guys look like they are downhill and she definatley doesn't want a downhill stallion. Thats why she is looking at Thoroughbreds as so many of the stockhorses over here are downhill.

wow. i have to disagree. carro in particular is CERTAINLY not downhill. wasnt lucky pine looking for a horse to take away a bit of her mares bone? she thought a TB, which i dont think are partically renouned for being very 'uphill' as it is. she also requested a horse with speed. which these two have...maybe i missed something, but did she say she wanted a paryically uphill horse. if she does...may i suggest a lean warmblood...much more uphill than a TB. lilrider, the first stallion that you posted was nice, but you said yourself hes QH build. she wanted a more slight horse, and also if you look through his pictures, they 2nd or 3rd confo shot, his butt looks a good 3 inches above his wither. this horse looks far more downhill to me than carro inparticular. i guess its all to do with how the pic is taken though.

[lilrider]

3WD and Minniemouse - she said that she was looking at thoroughbreds now because she couldn't find any stockhorses she liked that were not downhill. So that leads me to believe she would not want a downhill stud. She never said she wanted an uphill horse either just a level topline. Also for a barrel horse I would think not being downhill would be a must have as its much harder to collect when a horse is downhill and collection is key for turning a barrel.

Just what I was getting from what LP said

[minnie_mouse]

Originally Posted by lilrider

3WD and Minniemouse - she said that she was looking at thoroughbreds now because she couldn't find any stockhorses she liked that were not downhill. So that leads me to believe she would not want a downhill stud. She never said she wanted an uphill horse either just a level topline. Also for a barrel horse I would think not being downhill would be a must have as its much harder to collect when a horse is downhill and collection is key for turning a barrel.

Just what I was getting from what LP said

no i understand what your saying...dont worry. and im just saying...the TB's i posted are NOT downhill...period.

[lilrider]

not to go off topic but...

they are slightly downhill and I would rather have a slightly uphill horse than slightly downhill

just an itsy bitsy going from where is withers are (not where his mane sticks up above them)

[lucky_pine]

Miinie, even though those studs are wonderful, they will not cross with my mare at all. Looking at the stud compared to Babe, they have almost the same back. Longish, and yes, downhill even in the slightest. My goal, speed or not, to be 100% honest, is to put a foal on the ground with the best conformation possible. As you can obviously tell, given she's a paint mare and I'm not looking at colored studs, color means nothing to me.
Why is conformation everything to me? Speed or not?
So I can get this foal off my hands if I no longer want it. Conformation will sell. Color will, yes. And if I find a colored stud I like (which I haven't yet) well heck, now we have an even better deal. So conformation is down.
Now throw speed in the pot. Not only speed, but the conformation to do just about anything. We've got a barrel horse, who is thick, but not as thick as Baby. Still has the halter "look" but not quite halter. But who is an all around horse. who has confo.
Throw some bloodlines in there.

And we have a VERY marketable baby on my hands.
Yes, when it comes of age, it will be BARREL trained. Speed is a MUST. But I WILL NOT sacrifice conformation for speed.
My mare has straight legs. Wonderful. She's over in one knee but very slightly. Straight kneed stud will fix that. Otherwise, the only thing I do not like about her, and will be fixed if I'm VERY PICKY (which I am) about the stud, is her back. It's not very long, but longer than I'd like to see on a barrel horse. She's downhill, not by much but still downhill. Get a level toplined stud and it will help that area.
She has the speed. She has the agility. She is a cat around barrels and anything you put in her path. Throw some sprinter lines in there to ADVANCE the speed that's already there...
and by the time I'm done with it I should have a very marketable barrel baby.
Thoroughbred, QH, Paint whatever. If it has the talent and excells in the areas my mare lacks, which is also her thickness, I'll go for it.
My problem is I cannot find a stud that I like. That's it. I don't care if it's a Thoroughbred, QH, Paint. As long as it has confo where she lacks, and is also strong in her areas, and it has speed and lines, I'll consider it. I can't find one though.
And trust me, I've looked. I've spent days and nights looking for the stud. Can't find one.

I'll not breed her if I can't find the stud I'm looking for. I'm not going to throw a mediocre foal on the ground. Absolutely not.

[PeggySue]

Lilrider she wants a QH or Paint IF she can find one that she likes... the firewater Flit horses are super hot on barrel circuit right now... just go to barrelhorse.com to see what the yearlings are going for!!

Just look at what probarrelracer has been offered for static just for the line itself!!

the Jet lines have been hot in barrels for YEARS they are here to stay as well as the Dash for Cash line...

I can't upload all the pic on my puter dial-up stinks...

LuckyPine what is the top stud fee you are willing to pay and are you willing to AI??