The protein myth let's discuss it

PeggySue · 01-23-2008, 08:33 AM

we also need to remember to look at the quality and digestiablitiy of the protein source as well something alot of people tend to over look

if a feed is say 14% but it is not a digestable source then what are you really getting

PeggySue · 01-23-2008, 08:34 AM

The NRC is a bit pricey and a bit hard to understand but once you firgure it all out it really helps

I was not stupid before I got it I had a good grasp of it but WOW I felt stupid realizing all I was missing when I started reading it LOL

Blistering Winds · 01-23-2008, 09:29 AM

how many ouches in a pound????

**snickers**

AND if you are trying to convert Grams into "volumetric" ounces.....you will not get there with that conversion.

PeggySue · 01-23-2008, 10:03 AM

I am waiting on you to firgure that for me Michelle

Blistering Winds · 01-23-2008, 10:19 AM

Figure what? volume? You won't. There is no conversion from "weight" to "volume" universally.

Ah, now I see what you were looking at...

shoot, make it easier for me. 1000 g in a kilogram. 2.2 lbs per kilogram

forget all that other set of numbers.!!!

PeggySue · 01-23-2008, 10:21 AM

that is prob why they don't use volume to firgure this stuff

Dawn · 01-23-2008, 11:35 AM

To change grams to lbs, you divide by 453.4 (that is rounded obviously but is definately close enough for all intents and purposes). Lbs to grams, multiply by 453.4.

I'm not saying that the 'main purpose' of protein in the equine diet isn't to be utilized for cell regeneration. But even though that is the 'main purpose' of it, it does still provide calories. Yes horses can digest different sources of proteins, carbs, and fats than some other animals (or humans). Or might not be able to digest some sources that others can. But assuming that the source is something that is digestable, then it will provide calories (it's just a matter of what those calories are going to do within the body from then on). I actually read a really good article about this not two weeks ago. But I can not for the life of me remember where it was.

Even though there are some marked differences in equine and human nutrition, you can take the basic principles of human nutrition and apply it directly to equines. And since there is a lot more research readily available in relation to humans, that can be one of the best learning tools.

Blistering Winds · 01-23-2008, 04:39 PM

Most of the differences in human vs horse nutrition stems from the types of carbs available. More is available in horses than humans which was the part I was mentioning since we were talking about carbs at the time.

Dawn · 01-25-2008, 06:01 AM

Yes, I'd have to agree with that.

01-23-2008, 09:29 AM	#53
Blistering Winds Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Augusta, Kansas Posts: 31,866 Images: 822 Blog Entries: 17	how many ouches in a pound???? snickers AND if you are trying to convert Grams into "volumetric" ounces.....you will not get there with that conversion. __________________ HGS is a very powerful, addicting place that is just as bad as cigarettes, however healthier for you AND your horse.

01-23-2008, 10:19 AM	#55
Blistering Winds Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Augusta, Kansas Posts: 31,866 Images: 822 Blog Entries: 17	Figure what? volume? You won't. There is no conversion from "weight" to "volume" universally. Ah, now I see what you were looking at... shoot, make it easier for me. 1000 g in a kilogram. 2.2 lbs per kilogram forget all that other set of numbers.!!! __________________ HGS is a very powerful, addicting place that is just as bad as cigarettes, however healthier for you AND your horse.

01-23-2008, 04:39 PM	#58
Blistering Winds Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Augusta, Kansas Posts: 31,866 Images: 822 Blog Entries: 17	Most of the differences in human vs horse nutrition stems from the types of carbs available. More is available in horses than humans which was the part I was mentioning since we were talking about carbs at the time. __________________ HGS is a very powerful, addicting place that is just as bad as cigarettes, however healthier for you AND your horse.

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01-23-2008, 11:35 AM	#57
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 30,115 Images: 1328	To change grams to lbs, you divide by 453.4 (that is rounded obviously but is definately close enough for all intents and purposes). Lbs to grams, multiply by 453.4. I'm not saying that the 'main purpose' of protein in the equine diet isn't to be utilized for cell regeneration. But even though that is the 'main purpose' of it, it does still provide calories. Yes horses can digest different sources of proteins, carbs, and fats than some other animals (or humans). Or might not be able to digest some sources that others can. But assuming that the source is something that is digestable, then it will provide calories (it's just a matter of what those calories are going to do within the body from then on). I actually read a really good article about this not two weeks ago. But I can not for the life of me remember where it was. Even though there are some marked differences in equine and human nutrition, you can take the basic principles of human nutrition and apply it directly to equines. And since there is a lot more research readily available in relation to humans, that can be one of the best learning tools.

01-25-2008, 06:01 AM	#59
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 30,115 Images: 1328	Yes, I'd have to agree with that.