the difference between collected trot and a nomal trot

wildstang · 07-04-2009, 05:11 PM

Hi,
I know there is a huge difference in the two, but I would like to see pictures of the two and someone explain to me the exact difference.
thanks

GottaRide · 07-04-2009, 05:30 PM

I'm not sure what you are looking for....the difference between a collected trot and ???

wildstang · 07-04-2009, 05:34 PM

sorry I forgot to write it, a normal trot

imjustjoking22 · 07-04-2009, 05:36 PM

and extended trot?

I would suggest looking around youtube, there are some great examples of both. Extended and collected both require a large amount of collection- the horse must be rocked back onto his/her haunches and pushing from behind. Basically, from there, in a collected trot you use that energy to go up and a little bit forward, and in an extended trot you use the energy for more forward (a bigger stride and more lift in the front end, not faster) and a little "up".
Very simplified version, but I hope that helps!

ETA: just saw your latest post- but I think mine still has some relevancy so I'm not going to change it

MysticRealm · 07-04-2009, 05:43 PM

Collecting a stride is where you shorten the steps the horse is taking while still maintaining the same tempo and energy. This generally requires a bit more hand and a LOT more leg. You don't want the horse plodding along slowly, you want it energetic and bouncy with a short step.
Normal trot is as it sound. Your horse's natural pace at the trot (note some horses like to go fast or slow but that is not their natural pace it's more just lazyness or excitedness. Find the nice middle ground) You horse should have the same tempo as in collected gait but the strides should be longer, Let me see if I can find any decent pics

MysticRealm · 07-04-2009, 05:51 PM

I quickly found a video of collected trot.
This horse obviously is a bit tense and such but you can get the idea. the horse has lots of bounce and energy but a short stride. the rider is using so much leg that the horse breaks to canter at one part. Like I said just a quick search and I am sure others can find a better example but this is the rough idea

YouTube - collected trot

Here is a quick video of 'normal' or working trot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toMWnUGkDzI&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ehorsegroomingsupplies%2Ecom%...

obviously the stride length is longer but the tempo is relatively the same (tho they are 2 different horses and this horse seems more relaxed from the 2 seconds I watched of it so there will be a bit of variance)

nixalba · 07-05-2009, 06:08 AM

Check out the bottom of this page:

http://www.classicaldressage.net/mem...ansitions.html

Really great, but very advanced, photos of a working trot('normal trot') and collected.

wildstang · 07-05-2009, 07:29 AM

thanks for the videos, I understand now. Thanks.

Quote:

Check out the bottom of this page:

http://www.classicaldressage.net/mem...ansitions.html

Really great, but very advanced, photos of a working trot('normal trot') and collected.

I used to look a this all the time, I couldn't find if for a long time though, Thanks for that, it was great.

07-04-2009, 05:11 PM	#1
wildstang Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Utah Posts: 494 Images: 105	the difference between collected trot and a nomal trot Hi, I know there is a huge difference in the two, but I would like to see pictures of the two and someone explain to me the exact difference. thanks __________________ "If a person will RIDE CORRECTLY, the horse will practically TRAIN HIMSELF" ~Larry Trocha Last edited by wildstang; 07-04-2009 at 05:35 PM.

07-04-2009, 05:30 PM	#2
GottaRide Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Stiles Jct, WI Posts: 458 Images: 2	I'm not sure what you are looking for....the difference between a collected trot and ??? __________________ Cedar View Paint Horses Proud member of the Paint Club Home to ~ Catch Me Dreamin - 2007 APHA chestnut tobiano gelding Hanks Rainy Sky - 1998 black & white tobiano Paint gelding Megas Doctor Time - 2004 sorrel overo gelding

07-04-2009, 05:34 PM	#3
wildstang Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Utah Posts: 494 Images: 105	sorry I forgot to write it, a normal trot __________________ "If a person will RIDE CORRECTLY, the horse will practically TRAIN HIMSELF" ~Larry Trocha

07-04-2009, 05:36 PM	#4
imjustjoking22 Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Coastal California Posts: 7,575 Images: 74 Blog Entries: 1	and extended trot? I would suggest looking around youtube, there are some great examples of both. Extended and collected both require a large amount of collection- the horse must be rocked back onto his/her haunches and pushing from behind. Basically, from there, in a collected trot you use that energy to go up and a little bit forward, and in an extended trot you use the energy for more forward (a bigger stride and more lift in the front end, not faster) and a little "up". Very simplified version, but I hope that helps! ETA: just saw your latest post- but I think mine still has some relevancy so I'm not going to change it __________________ Palin/Cheney 2012: The Mayans Were On To Something.

07-04-2009, 05:43 PM	#5
MysticRealm Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,240 Images: 54	Collecting a stride is where you shorten the steps the horse is taking while still maintaining the same tempo and energy. This generally requires a bit more hand and a LOT more leg. You don't want the horse plodding along slowly, you want it energetic and bouncy with a short step. Normal trot is as it sound. Your horse's natural pace at the trot (note some horses like to go fast or slow but that is not their natural pace it's more just lazyness or excitedness. Find the nice middle ground) You horse should have the same tempo as in collected gait but the strides should be longer, Let me see if I can find any decent pics __________________ Proud Owner of Elis (Canadian Sport Horse), Markie (thoroughbred), Bear (pomeranian/shih tzu/ terrier), and Styder (Toy Poodle) and Vega (thoroughbred)

07-05-2009, 06:08 AM	#7
nixalba Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ontario Posts: 324 Images: 28	Check out the bottom of this page: http://www.classicaldressage.net/mem...ansitions.html Really great, but very advanced, photos of a working trot('normal trot') and collected. __________________ "Vintage Lace" - 2005 Appaloosa x Thoroughbred mare "Insert name here" - 2003 Arabian x Quarter horse mare

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