[JumpsxGlory]

He def. shapes up over the larger fences, gorgeous boy and Suzie you did a great job riding him

If you ever need someone to take him off your hands, I'll gladly take Kai for you. lol Ollie would like a buddy

[imjustjoking22]

Originally Posted by JumpsxGlory

He def. shapes up over the larger fences, gorgeous boy and Suzie you did a great job riding him

If you ever need someone to take him off your hands, I'll gladly take Kai for you. lol Ollie would like a buddy

Haha I will consider it

[JumpsxGlory]

Originally Posted by imjustjoking22

Haha I will consider it

He can go on a little vacation in MI, even though the weather is unpredictable here and it's nothing like Cali lol

[imjustjoking22]

Originally Posted by JumpsxGlory

He can go on a little vacation in MI, even though the weather is unpredictable here and it's nothing like Cali lol

Haha- well he did live for a while in Oregon...

[Kaitlan]

awe. your horse is gorgeous!!

[imjustjoking22]

Originally Posted by Kaitlan

awe. your horse is gorgeous!!

Thank you!!

[Wounded]

Originally Posted by imjustjoking22

Thanks so much!! I did get some suggestions from the other members- and I bought the 101 jumping exercises, which we will work on a lot over summer.

I am trying to work him more over oxers- will that help his hind end? I know it should at least help him round over the jumps.

Oxars? Hmm, not really. He may use his hind more effectively over those jumps but that won't be enough for him to fix the problem overall. Some horses are naturally more active with their hind which means that some are naturally, well- sloppier. Keeping that in mind theres only so much you can do to change a horse's form for it is limited by their conformation/genetics, work ethic, and athletic ability. The latter attribute is the only one that can be improved really.

There are some cases where the horse simply does not understand how to effectively use his hind, which is often seen in youngsters. The solution is different for every horse- some learn through their mistakes (hitting the pole), some learn from gymnastics (bounces, lines, etc) and muscular development(hill work, xc schooling, extensions+collection etc), but some never learn.

Without knowing the horse my first suggestion is to introduce bounce poles before and after the jump (I think the poles you had set up in the video were only before the jump.. correct me if I'm wrong). What post-jump bounce poles do is teach the horse to back off at the landing. This re-collection will allow the horse to work through the jump with his hind and teach him to be more aware of his body over the jump (hind included). What happens with green horses is that they often forget where they are over the jump and where they hind is in relation to that, their primary goal is to get from one side to the other. As a rider you need to instill that awareness into the horse.

I'd like to suggest bounces as well, but only on the condition that the rider has a really strong (but soft and interrupting) position. Over the bounces the rider needs to free the horse's back as much as possible and allow the horse to work through it. One common mistake is for the rider to baby (override in other terms) the horse through a grid or combination. The more you leave a horse to do for himself (ie. figure out his distances, take off points, landings, speed etc) the more he'll start to carry himself. In the event that the horse isn't honest, or honest enough for the rider's comfort a lot of work needs to be done before the horse can be trusted to navigate a grid by themselves (but thats an entirely different topic).

Let me know if you'd like me to elaborate on anything.

[imjustjoking22]

Originally Posted by wounded

Oxars? Hmm, not really. He may use his hind more effectively over those jumps but that won't be enough for him to fix the problem overall. Some horses are naturally more active with their hind which means that some are naturally, well- sloppier. Keeping that in mind theres only so much you can do to change a horse's form for it is limited by their conformation/genetics, work ethic, and athletic ability. The latter attribute is the only one that can be improved really.

Ok. I will also try to work him a little more over wooden poles- he seems to be much more careful over those.

His breeding is pretty good for jumping- sire Ideal and dam's sire Caletto I.

Originally Posted by wounded

There are some cases where the horse simply does not understand how to effectively use his hind, which is often seen in youngsters. The solution is different for every horse- some learn through their mistakes (hitting the pole), some learn from gymnastics (bounces, lines, etc) and muscular development(hill work, xc schooling, extensions+collection etc), but some never learn.

Without knowing the horse my first suggestion is to introduce bounce poles before and after the jump (I think the poles you had set up in the video were only before the jump.. correct me if I'm wrong). What post-jump bounce poles do is teach the horse to back off at the landing. This re-collection will allow the horse to work through the jump with his hind and teach him to be more aware of his body over the jump (hind included). What happens with green horses is that they often forget where they are over the jump and where they hind is in relation to that, their primary goal is to get from one side to the other. As a rider you need to instill that awareness into the horse.

Yes, the poles were only in the front. I will put them in front and back next time.

Originally Posted by wounded

I'd like to suggest bounces as well, but only on the condition that the rider has a really strong (but soft and interrupting) position. Over the bounces the rider needs to free the horse's back as much as possible and allow the horse to work through it. One common mistake is for the rider to baby (override in other terms) the horse through a grid or combination. The more you leave a horse to do for himself (ie. figure out his distances, take off points, landings, speed etc) the more he'll start to carry himself. In the event that the horse isn't honest, or honest enough for the rider's comfort a lot of work needs to be done before the horse can be trusted to navigate a grid by themselves (but thats an entirely different topic).

Let me know if you'd like me to elaborate on anything.

We have worked through grids and bounces both (from 3 strides to no strides) and he has done really well. He is very honest and steady through them, and I have been careful to ride mostly so that I am not inhibiting him but not helping him either.

I think the next thing we will work on will be 4 or 5 bounce jumps in a row- we have only done 2 jumps so far.

I will be able to vary things a lot more when I am home too because there will be more poles available.

I will pm you if I have any more questions- thanks for all your great advice!!

[thinkfast88]

i would say you have yourself a VERY nice little jumper! he looks really good so far! very nice mover! i'd say he has huge potential for dressage too. he carries himself really nicely. you two make an incredible pair!

[imjustjoking22]

Originally Posted by thinkfast88

i would say you have yourself a VERY nice little jumper! he looks really good so far! very nice mover! i'd say he has huge potential for dressage too. he carries himself really nicely. you two make an incredible pair!

Thanks! It's not me riding in this video though . And we do dressage as well!

YouTube - Schooling dressage