stud chain(?)

Je_Reve · 05-11-2007, 07:46 PM

I have a very wide 16.3hh OTTB who needs a little bit of help when it comes to 'my' space and 'his' space... my trainer recommended(and used) something called a 'stud chain'.

I've been looking up 'stud chain' on a few of the horse sites that I buy tack from and I'm not finding anything under that name... do any of you have any idea what exactly it is?

The only thing I can tell you is that it attaches to the lead rope and loops through the left side of the halter, around the nose band/strap and then up through the right side and attaches on the higher part.
Many thanks in advance!

I'm going to edit this thread to add the following:
I'm not looking for training advice.
I know and trust my trainer, and she is teaching me how to use such items in the correct manner.
Someone else using something that you would not choose to use does not make it wrong, personal preference is key.
Have a good night ya'll <3

countryacres · 05-11-2007, 07:52 PM

It basicly is just a chain made out of the same stuff as a choke collar for a dog. Then attached to a lead.

I however would strongly suggest you do not use one until you know how. Then can me harsh on a horse. And can cause worse problems then you have now if it i snot used carefully. And under no circum stansis every tie a horse while the chain in under of over anypart of the horse. They can pull but and have broken bones in seconds!!!

Julia Gulia · 05-11-2007, 07:53 PM

I wouldn't use a stud chain....but here you go.

Stud Chain - Horse.com

Julia Gulia · 05-11-2007, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by countryacres

It basicly is just a chain made out of the same stuff as a choke collar for a dog. Then attached to a lead.

I however would strongly suggest you do not use one until you know how. Then can me harsh on a horse. And can cause worse problems then you have now if it i snot used carefully. And under no circum stansis every tie a horse while the chain in under of over anypart of the horse. They can pull but and have broken bones in seconds!!!

Well said....I'd rather use a well made rope halter and do some basic ground work training...but that requires some time and patience.

MyBelgianAzzy · 05-11-2007, 07:58 PM

On the other hand...

I never lead a horse without a stud chain (or chain shank). It's standard equipment, and it doesn't ever have to be used, but it's there if I need it.

Never tie in one, as has been said. Do not snap, jerk, etc., and know how to attach it to your halter correctly to prevent the halter from twisting into the horse's eye.

Cowgirl1013 · 05-11-2007, 08:14 PM

I will use them when I need. Some times I am very happy that I have it too. They just give you some extra leverage if you need it. Like MBA said don't tie with them and if they go up don't pull them back down with it. That can cause them to pull back more to get away form the pressure.

Acme Acres · 05-11-2007, 08:37 PM

There's all different types of ways a stud chain can be attached and used too. You can go up and over the nose, under the chin, in the mouth, in the mouth and on the gums (used a lot with a homonal driven stallion) or as a giant loop under the chin, up and over the nose and back around.

Personally in that type of situation, I rather see a chifney bit used. More even pressure and less chance of severe or even really minor damage. Just remember, under the chin there are a LOT of nerves. If for some reason you do ever have to leave a chain on the horse when it's tied, either disconnect the chain from the lead or I'll take the chain in the snap and then snap the halter to the lead like you normally would (keeping them from having any pressure related to the chain if they get stupid and sit back etc.

Kjun'sDestiny · 08-19-2007, 07:19 AM

Hello...Just my .02 Cents worth here.....IF used properly...Stud Chains are not bad things. I have a Stallion and I never have to use a stud chain on him The people That had him before me said they only used a stud chain during breed with him but I have not even had to use it while breeding him (knock on wood) he is very well behaved and trained. But In the past I have had to use a stud chain on a mare I had one time and she knew I was boss, I always put the chain on her halter and she knew it was there and never gave me an issue after the first time. I have never abused a horse or anything that is why I said IF Used Properly They are good things

Have A Great Day

pattonspuff14 · 08-19-2007, 07:23 AM

We use them on all of the thoroughbreds at the racehorse farm i work on. I love them, I think they give a lot more control then just using a rope halter. but i only like to use them if the horse really needs it.

freedom32 · 08-19-2007, 07:27 AM

A stud chain is a valuable tool if used correctly. You should be able to find a lead w/a chain at any tack store. Glad you are working with your trainer on this, just make sure she teaches you how to use it before you go about it on your own.

05-11-2007, 07:46 PM	#1
Je_Reve Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central California Posts: 311 Images: 12	stud chain(?) I have a very wide 16.3hh OTTB who needs a little bit of help when it comes to 'my' space and 'his' space... my trainer recommended(and used) something called a 'stud chain'. I've been looking up 'stud chain' on a few of the horse sites that I buy tack from and I'm not finding anything under that name... do any of you have any idea what exactly it is? The only thing I can tell you is that it attaches to the lead rope and loops through the left side of the halter, around the nose band/strap and then up through the right side and attaches on the higher part. Many thanks in advance! I'm going to edit this thread to add the following: I'm not looking for training advice. I know and trust my trainer, and she is teaching me how to use such items in the correct manner. Someone else using something that you would not choose to use does not make it wrong, personal preference is key. Have a good night ya'll <3 __________________ the wind of heaven is that which blows between a horses ears Last edited by Je_Reve; 05-11-2007 at 08:05 PM.

05-11-2007, 07:52 PM	#2
countryacres Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,184 Images: 65 Blog Entries: 1	It basicly is just a chain made out of the same stuff as a choke collar for a dog. Then attached to a lead. I however would strongly suggest you do not use one until you know how. Then can me harsh on a horse. And can cause worse problems then you have now if it i snot used carefully. And under no circum stansis every tie a horse while the chain in under of over anypart of the horse. They can pull but and have broken bones in seconds!!! __________________ The wind of heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears. ~Arabian Proverb It's a lot like nuts and bolts - if the rider's nuts, the horse bolts! ~Nicholas Evans Be yourself b/c those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

05-11-2007, 07:53 PM	#3
Julia Gulia Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2007 Location: GA Posts: 362	I wouldn't use a stud chain....but here you go. Stud Chain - Horse.com __________________ Every horse deserves to be someones favourite Horse!

05-11-2007, 08:14 PM	#6
Cowgirl1013 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,312 Images: 45	I will use them when I need. Some times I am very happy that I have it too. They just give you some extra leverage if you need it. Like MBA said don't tie with them and if they go up don't pull them back down with it. That can cause them to pull back more to get away form the pressure. __________________ ~ Katie N.A.S.C.A.R- Non Athletic Sport Centered Around Rednecks http://www.youtube.com/cowgirl10137 http://cowgirlkate.deviantart.com/

05-11-2007, 08:37 PM	#7
Acme Acres Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 5,879 Images: 372	There's all different types of ways a stud chain can be attached and used too. You can go up and over the nose, under the chin, in the mouth, in the mouth and on the gums (used a lot with a homonal driven stallion) or as a giant loop under the chin, up and over the nose and back around. Personally in that type of situation, I rather see a chifney bit used. More even pressure and less chance of severe or even really minor damage. Just remember, under the chin there are a LOT of nerves. If for some reason you do ever have to leave a chain on the horse when it's tied, either disconnect the chain from the lead or I'll take the chain in the snap and then snap the halter to the lead like you normally would (keeping them from having any pressure related to the chain if they get stupid and sit back etc. __________________ *Acme Acres* Home of Reflections Playboy & ShowHorseSupplies.com www.azpainthorses.com

08-19-2007, 07:19 AM	#8
Kjun'sDestiny Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Clarksville Tennessee Posts: 20 Images: 5	Hello...Just my .02 Cents worth here.....IF used properly...Stud Chains are not bad things. I have a Stallion and I never have to use a stud chain on him The people That had him before me said they only used a stud chain during breed with him but I have not even had to use it while breeding him (knock on wood) he is very well behaved and trained. But In the past I have had to use a stud chain on a mare I had one time and she knew I was boss, I always put the chain on her halter and she knew it was there and never gave me an issue after the first time. I have never abused a horse or anything that is why I said IF Used Properly They are good things Have A Great Day

08-19-2007, 07:23 AM	#9
pattonspuff14 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 831 Images: 176	We use them on all of the thoroughbreds at the racehorse farm i work on. I love them, I think they give a lot more control then just using a rope halter. but i only like to use them if the horse really needs it. __________________ equestrian.."Part of the horse deal is that it comes with a whole lot of heartache, you get used to it but It never gets any easier. Its a long and hard struggle, and thats part of what makes it so rewarding"

08-19-2007, 07:27 AM	#10
freedom32 Senior Member+ Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Capital of the Steeler Nation--PITTSBURGH Posts: 7,899 Images: 416 Blog Entries: 144	A stud chain is a valuable tool if used correctly. You should be able to find a lead w/a chain at any tack store. Glad you are working with your trainer on this, just make sure she teaches you how to use it before you go about it on your own. __________________ Pittsburgh gals bleed black & gold ~originally posted by JBandRio~ she's out there grazing and pooping and napping and biting her buddy's butt

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