[cminor]

first of all, I am not a nh trainer, I am not a trainer period I work my own horses with whatever techniques work, and the 4 knot rope halters work. I was turned on the the 4 knot rope halters, and they really work. I really like them they get a horses attention without possibly harming as easily as a stud chain would. I have seen studs at breeding time handled in them and they work. Just a thought that maybe this would be easier for you.