Steep croups

tucklove · 05-08-2006, 11:27 PM

Yeah, I had no finals today so I'm kind of... post crazy. But this has been nagging at me for a while.
What's wrong with steep croups? Like, really steep. Are they good for anything, sport/discipline-wise?
(By croup I'm referring to the... slant? from the top of the hip to the tail.... I think that's what I'm referring to... man, I am not helpful.)

I think that's what I'm getting at. Thanks Roy for modeling!!

Goonhorse · 05-09-2006, 05:12 AM

I don't know if it has any sort of advantages or disadvantages, but I've always heard it called 'goose rumped'. I wouldn't say that horse is extreme, though. Not as bad as my mom's horse!!!

Blistering Winds · 05-09-2006, 06:24 AM

your horse's croup looks great. it is long, and the hip is at a decent angle

Steep croups usually mean the hip angle is diving down, which restricts the hrose's ability to stretch their legs back.

Too flat of a hip, they cannot reach up underneath them.

Too short of a croup affects length of stride in the hind end.

So yes, it does affect the horse, but it is more related to the hip, but the Look of the croup and the hip have everything to do with each other.

It also has to do where the tail head is.

The angle and health of the spine is in the croup too...

JBandRio · 05-09-2006, 06:26 AM

Agree, your horse is fine

A "goose rump" is very often seen in drafts and QH's bred for cutting/speed. The angle makes it easier to push.

Blistering Winds · 05-09-2006, 06:27 AM

these pics are horses from the critique area....

Steep croup, but ok hip...hip could be a bit longer Needs muscling, and with the back as long as it is, it is causing the shorter, more steep croup.

Blistering Winds · 05-09-2006, 06:31 AM

I like this one especially. It has a nice overall tie into the loin and the buttocks.

It is a very well defined croup. It is short, but the hip angle is a bit steep. But the croup actually maintains itself very well here, showing a very healthy back and muscling to support the conformational steeper angle'd hip

Blistering Winds · 05-09-2006, 06:33 AM

And I'll pick on my own as well.

His croup is steeper than I would like to see on a Quarter horse. It does affect his stretch in stride. His back is also a bit longer than I would like to have, which affects his croup angle.

tucklove · 05-09-2006, 09:26 AM

Wow thank you guys, BW especially for all the examples. I know, the horse I posted is fine, Roy was just the best confo pic I have. I just get a lot of people saying that Tuck has a steep croup, and I can see for myself that it is, but I didn;t know what that entailed. Much appreciated!

This makes it look better than it is, but it's still pretty slopey. Actually, when he's square, it almost matches that slope in his shoulder...

05-08-2006, 11:27 PM	#1
tucklove Senior Member+ Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 1,336 Images: 165 Blog Entries: 181	Steep croups Yeah, I had no finals today so I'm kind of... post crazy. But this has been nagging at me for a while. What's wrong with steep croups? Like, really steep. Are they good for anything, sport/discipline-wise? (By croup I'm referring to the... slant? from the top of the hip to the tail.... I think that's what I'm referring to... man, I am not helpful.) I think that's what I'm getting at. Thanks Roy for modeling!!

05-09-2006, 05:12 AM	#2
Goonhorse Senior Member+ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,891 Images: 262 Blog Entries: 152	I don't know if it has any sort of advantages or disadvantages, but I've always heard it called 'goose rumped'. I wouldn't say that horse is extreme, though. Not as bad as my mom's horse!!! __________________ "Enter into His gates with thanksgiving, And into His courts with praise: Be thankful unto Him, and bless His name." -Psalm 100:4

05-09-2006, 06:24 AM	#3
Blistering Winds Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Augusta, Kansas Posts: 31,979 Images: 831 Blog Entries: 17	your horse's croup looks great. it is long, and the hip is at a decent angle Steep croups usually mean the hip angle is diving down, which restricts the hrose's ability to stretch their legs back. Too flat of a hip, they cannot reach up underneath them. Too short of a croup affects length of stride in the hind end. So yes, it does affect the horse, but it is more related to the hip, but the Look of the croup and the hip have everything to do with each other. It also has to do where the tail head is. The angle and health of the spine is in the croup too... __________________ HGS is a very powerful, addicting place that is just as bad as cigarettes, however healthier for you AND your horse.

05-09-2006, 06:26 AM	#4
JBandRio Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NC Posts: 23,699 Images: 145 Blog Entries: 12	Agree, your horse is fine A "goose rump" is very often seen in drafts and QH's bred for cutting/speed. The angle makes it easier to push. __________________ - JB Acres, owned and operated by Dynamite animals. - It's a wonder horses as a whole don't just kill us all and be done with their misery. - Keep your voice soothing and low - even when things get western (buck1173) - You can't hit me with all those snowballs!

05-09-2006, 06:27 AM	#5
Blistering Winds Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Augusta, Kansas Posts: 31,979 Images: 831 Blog Entries: 17	these pics are horses from the critique area.... Steep croup, but ok hip...hip could be a bit longer Needs muscling, and with the back as long as it is, it is causing the shorter, more steep croup. __________________ HGS is a very powerful, addicting place that is just as bad as cigarettes, however healthier for you AND your horse.

05-09-2006, 06:31 AM	#6
Blistering Winds Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Augusta, Kansas Posts: 31,979 Images: 831 Blog Entries: 17	I like this one especially. It has a nice overall tie into the loin and the buttocks. It is a very well defined croup. It is short, but the hip angle is a bit steep. But the croup actually maintains itself very well here, showing a very healthy back and muscling to support the conformational steeper angle'd hip __________________ HGS is a very powerful, addicting place that is just as bad as cigarettes, however healthier for you AND your horse.

05-09-2006, 06:33 AM	#7
Blistering Winds Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Augusta, Kansas Posts: 31,979 Images: 831 Blog Entries: 17	And I'll pick on my own as well. His croup is steeper than I would like to see on a Quarter horse. It does affect his stretch in stride. His back is also a bit longer than I would like to have, which affects his croup angle. __________________ HGS is a very powerful, addicting place that is just as bad as cigarettes, however healthier for you AND your horse.

05-09-2006, 09:26 AM	#8
tucklove Senior Member+ Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 1,336 Images: 165 Blog Entries: 181	Wow thank you guys, BW especially for all the examples. I know, the horse I posted is fine, Roy was just the best confo pic I have. I just get a lot of people saying that Tuck has a steep croup, and I can see for myself that it is, but I didn;t know what that entailed. Much appreciated! This makes it look better than it is, but it's still pretty slopey. Actually, when he's square, it almost matches that slope in his shoulder...

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