Steep croup?

crazy4horses205 · 10-30-2006, 05:18 PM

I've been told many times that my horse has a steep croup
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but what does this mean for a horse? Like, is it good, is it bad, if either, why? Also, can it go away with proper muscling? Cause it really seems like its starting to get less steep with more work.

missy'sbabydoll · 10-30-2006, 05:22 PM

mine does too, but it is slowly covering up with lots of work. i get her to trot over poles, hill work etc. but i haven't noticed any problems with her. some people called her goose rumped.

these are after like a month, so not much difference

JBandRio · 10-30-2006, 06:51 PM

Toby does indeed have a VERY steep croup. You look at that angle basically from the top of the rump, at the sacro-illiac joint, that "bump" up there, to the point of the butt. Toby's is VERY steep. Is he part draft? Part QH? A steeper croup like that is common - supposed to give more pushing power, more ability to tuck the hiney under.

Most of Toby's is his conformation. I say that because of how he's standing out with his hind legs, and it's still steep. A croup can appear to be steep if the horse has his hind legs tucked under, which is some of the picture of the first one of Baby up there. Injuries to the SI joint can cause a croup to appear steeper than it is. Work and physical therapy can help that issue, and muscling in general can fill in the butt muscles a bit, lessening the illusion. But the angles still measure that they measure, so that's what you have to look at when comparing before/after or horse to horse.

crazy4horses205 · 10-30-2006, 07:03 PM

He's QH/Morgan. So its a good thing? Well, not a good thing but not necessarily a bad thing? He does have amazing power from back there, can go and go all day and is almost never on the forhand it seems like and usually tracks up pretty good unless he's being lazy.

Thats probably a bad pic, heres another one where he's standing more normal. This is after about a month I think:

and then this is about a month after that one

ehh maybe it hasn't really changed......

crazy4horses205 · 10-31-2006, 01:23 PM

bump bump.....

crazy4horses205 · 11-01-2006, 12:54 PM

anyone else.....?

sweeetrose · 11-01-2006, 01:05 PM

hmmm not to make this your horse sound awful...but I haven't seen a croup like that before. I have no idea if it's good or bad, but hmmmm interesting. Still think it's a cute horse...ahem handsome horse.

crazy4horses205 · 11-01-2006, 01:27 PM

haha, you mean that steep or deformed

Thats ok, I love him anyway

tightpaycheck · 11-01-2006, 01:28 PM

That is indeed a very steep croup. In general I think it is a matter of preference, but that is probably the most extreme example I've seen! I don't think that you will change it much with exersize.

sweeetrose · 11-01-2006, 01:34 PM

does he have wheels? like can he turn quick and just take off like a shot? seems like he would be able to, but again i've got no clue.

10-30-2006, 05:18 PM	#1
crazy4horses205 Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 5,148 Images: 334 Blog Entries: 2	Steep croup? I've been told many times that my horse has a steep croup see -----> but what does this mean for a horse? Like, is it good, is it bad, if either, why? Also, can it go away with proper muscling? Cause it really seems like its starting to get less steep with more work. __________________ ~Rachel and Tobey~ RIP Cody my sweet boy "If you throw your heart over the fence, your horse will go after it." Join the HGS prayer chain!! I <3 Green Day http://www.myspace.com/rachel9012 I've been boo-ed

10-30-2006, 05:22 PM	#2
missy'sbabydoll Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2006 Location: wickenburg, az Posts: 3,723 Images: 663	mine does too, but it is slowly covering up with lots of work. i get her to trot over poles, hill work etc. but i haven't noticed any problems with her. some people called her goose rumped. these are after like a month, so not much difference __________________ Director of FF Secret Service 20lb clubbers rock Proud Member of the Paint Club!! Sec. of the player fan club I've been love ♥ struck!

10-30-2006, 06:51 PM	#3
JBandRio Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NC Posts: 23,676 Images: 144 Blog Entries: 12	Toby does indeed have a VERY steep croup. You look at that angle basically from the top of the rump, at the sacro-illiac joint, that "bump" up there, to the point of the butt. Toby's is VERY steep. Is he part draft? Part QH? A steeper croup like that is common - supposed to give more pushing power, more ability to tuck the hiney under. Most of Toby's is his conformation. I say that because of how he's standing out with his hind legs, and it's still steep. A croup can appear to be steep if the horse has his hind legs tucked under, which is some of the picture of the first one of Baby up there. Injuries to the SI joint can cause a croup to appear steeper than it is. Work and physical therapy can help that issue, and muscling in general can fill in the butt muscles a bit, lessening the illusion. But the angles still measure that they measure, so that's what you have to look at when comparing before/after or horse to horse. __________________ - JB Acres, owned and operated by Dynamite animals. - It's a wonder horses as a whole don't just kill us all and be done with their misery. - Keep your voice soothing and low - even when things get western (buck1173) - Rio feels good - he bounced an in-and-out

10-30-2006, 07:03 PM	#4
crazy4horses205 Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 5,148 Images: 334 Blog Entries: 2	He's QH/Morgan. So its a good thing? Well, not a good thing but not necessarily a bad thing? He does have amazing power from back there, can go and go all day and is almost never on the forhand it seems like and usually tracks up pretty good unless he's being lazy. Thats probably a bad pic, heres another one where he's standing more normal. This is after about a month I think: and then this is about a month after that one ehh maybe it hasn't really changed...... __________________ ~Rachel and Tobey~ RIP Cody my sweet boy "If you throw your heart over the fence, your horse will go after it." Join the HGS prayer chain!! I <3 Green Day http://www.myspace.com/rachel9012 I've been boo-ed

10-31-2006, 01:23 PM	#5
crazy4horses205 Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 5,148 Images: 334 Blog Entries: 2	bump bump..... __________________ ~Rachel and Tobey~ RIP Cody my sweet boy "If you throw your heart over the fence, your horse will go after it." Join the HGS prayer chain!! I <3 Green Day http://www.myspace.com/rachel9012 I've been boo-ed

11-01-2006, 12:54 PM	#6
crazy4horses205 Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 5,148 Images: 334 Blog Entries: 2	anyone else.....? __________________ ~Rachel and Tobey~ RIP Cody my sweet boy "If you throw your heart over the fence, your horse will go after it." Join the HGS prayer chain!! I <3 Green Day http://www.myspace.com/rachel9012 I've been boo-ed

11-01-2006, 01:05 PM	#7
sweeetrose Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 581 Images: 54	hmmm not to make this your horse sound awful...but I haven't seen a croup like that before. I have no idea if it's good or bad, but hmmmm interesting. Still think it's a cute horse...ahem handsome horse.

11-01-2006, 01:27 PM	#8
crazy4horses205 Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 5,148 Images: 334 Blog Entries: 2	haha, you mean that steep or deformed Thats ok, I love him anyway __________________ ~Rachel and Tobey~ RIP Cody my sweet boy "If you throw your heart over the fence, your horse will go after it." Join the HGS prayer chain!! I <3 Green Day http://www.myspace.com/rachel9012 I've been boo-ed

11-01-2006, 01:28 PM	#9
tightpaycheck Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NE PA Posts: 1,808 Images: 2	That is indeed a very steep croup. In general I think it is a matter of preference, but that is probably the most extreme example I've seen! I don't think that you will change it much with exersize.

11-01-2006, 01:34 PM	#10
sweeetrose Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 581 Images: 54	does he have wheels? like can he turn quick and just take off like a shot? seems like he would be able to, but again i've got no clue.

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