Spin off of "Sabino Arabians" - SPLASH ARABIANS?

Fancy That · 01-06-2009, 11:52 AM

Hey Gang - on another forum, a color expert is vehemently DENYING that Splash exists in Arabians. Saying that any of the chromed-out Khemosabi line horses are NOT SPLASH??

Why do some Arabian folks say there is no Splash? I don't get it?? Is this a common feeling?

Do they just think sabino-only for all these obviously splash/sabino Arabians?

I was just stunned and I didn't bother argueing with this person because they were the "color expert" (and actually did seem VERY knowledgeable on color genetics) yet said "ABSOLUTELY NO SPLASH IN ARABIANS"??!!

what gives? Those horses are splash/sabino, right?!!!

RiddleMeThis · 01-06-2009, 12:15 PM

Yes they ARE splash....arabian people like to deny it because they refuse to accept white in their breed. They are wrong. Plain and simply wrong.

JBandRio · 01-06-2009, 12:23 PM

Ask that "expert" how they deny that this is Splash

RiddleMeThis · 01-06-2009, 12:25 PM

Its on COTH JB!!!!!!!!!!!

ShadyGirl82 · 01-06-2009, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBandRio

Ask that "expert" how they deny that this is Splash

thats a gorgeous horse!

Sheza_Angel · 01-06-2009, 12:26 PM

If they don't think he is enough then they had better scope out his Daddy. Khartoon is splash if I've ever seen one.

Fancy That · 01-06-2009, 12:36 PM

I knew they were splash, but I was stunned that this "color guru" absolutely DENIED that they were.

I guess there is a faction in the Arabian world who refuse to believe splash exists? I just didn't know that.

Funny - we recently "discovered" Splash in Morgans, and thank goodness we don't really have any "anti-Splash" beliefs. Morgans are traditionally even more "color biased" than the Arabian world. And yes, there are Morgan folk who believe there "shouldn't be chromed-out Morgans"

But still - at least everyone knows the dilution and white pattern genes EXIST and cause what we are seeing

RMT and JB - go to COTH and read the "Sabino Info" thread under SH Breeding.... You can post that lovely SPLASH ARABIAN for me

Ceilidh · 01-06-2009, 12:38 PM

Some Arab breeders think loud white of any kind is proof of impurity of blood - that notion took hold many decades ago and a lot of fine horses were culled because of it. The Arabs in the Middle East have the markings they have. White belly spots and flashy white are just part of the breed. Records exists of "parti-color mares" given as tribute. Frankly, whatever color a purebred horse is must be in the breed somewhere. There is debate about the roan and the white Arabs - neither are supposed to happen.

I read a wonderful article about Arabian Roan and am saddened that such horses are rarely registered. There is a white mare in my guys pedigree - her papers were pulled when it was determined that she was a true white. Rare colors happen - rarely. I am glad that now, with DNA, if a foal of a rare color is born that foal can be verified and should be registered. The only eligibility requirement has been and should be descent from registered parents.

RiddleMeThis · 01-06-2009, 12:40 PM

oh I am!

~RMT Ill be waiting for oyu JB

charming · 01-06-2009, 12:43 PM

What is COTH? Like I realize it's a forum but what does is stand for? (and what's the link? lol!)

01-06-2009, 11:52 AM	#1
Fancy That Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA Posts: 799 Images: 5	Spin off of "Sabino Arabians" - SPLASH ARABIANS? Hey Gang - on another forum, a color expert is vehemently DENYING that Splash exists in Arabians. Saying that any of the chromed-out Khemosabi line horses are NOT SPLASH?? Why do some Arabian folks say there is no Splash? I don't get it?? Is this a common feeling? Do they just think sabino-only for all these obviously splash/sabino Arabians? I was just stunned and I didn't bother argueing with this person because they were the "color expert" (and actually did seem VERY knowledgeable on color genetics) yet said "ABSOLUTELY NO SPLASH IN ARABIANS"??!! what gives? Those horses are splash/sabino, right?!!!

01-06-2009, 12:15 PM	#2
RiddleMeThis Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,887	Yes they ARE splash....arabian people like to deny it because they refuse to accept white in their breed. They are wrong. Plain and simply wrong. __________________ Can't argue with flawed logic I guess. Equine Genetics Blog - Updated November 11th with Sabino and Dominant White Pot, meet kettle.™ Exasperbation (n): the irrational desire to reason with the delusional.

01-06-2009, 12:23 PM	#3
JBandRio Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NC Posts: 32,000 Images: 196 Blog Entries: 12	Ask that "expert" how they deny that this is Splash __________________ - JB Acres, owned and operated by Dynamite animals. - It's a wonder horses as a whole don't just kill us all and be done with their misery. - Keep your voice soothing and low - even when things get western (buck1173)

01-06-2009, 12:25 PM	#4
RiddleMeThis Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,887	Its on COTH JB!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Can't argue with flawed logic I guess. Equine Genetics Blog - Updated November 11th with Sabino and Dominant White Pot, meet kettle.™ Exasperbation (n): the irrational desire to reason with the delusional.

01-06-2009, 12:26 PM	#6
Sheza_Angel Senior Member+ Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Gulf Coast Texas Posts: 5,216 Images: 10	If they don't think he is enough then they had better scope out his Daddy. Khartoon is splash if I've ever seen one. __________________ Tara: Magnum (RSD Dark Victory x Magnums-Anastasia) '09 Arab colt Secret Again (Secret Hello x Miss Bridget) '01 OTTB gelding Angel '01 QH cross mare Kassey '01 TB/Paint mare I Have Been Gobbled by Thom Turkey!

01-06-2009, 12:36 PM	#7
Fancy That Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA Posts: 799 Images: 5	Thank you!! I knew they were splash, but I was stunned that this "color guru" absolutely DENIED that they were. I guess there is a faction in the Arabian world who refuse to believe splash exists? I just didn't know that. Funny - we recently "discovered" Splash in Morgans, and thank goodness we don't really have any "anti-Splash" beliefs. Morgans are traditionally even more "color biased" than the Arabian world. And yes, there are Morgan folk who believe there "shouldn't be chromed-out Morgans" But still - at least everyone knows the dilution and white pattern genes EXIST and cause what we are seeing RMT and JB - go to COTH and read the "Sabino Info" thread under SH Breeding.... You can post that lovely SPLASH ARABIAN for me

01-06-2009, 12:38 PM	#8
Ceilidh Senior Member+ Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Wetaskiwin, Ab, Canada Posts: 1,501 Images: 3	Some Arab breeders think loud white of any kind is proof of impurity of blood - that notion took hold many decades ago and a lot of fine horses were culled because of it. The Arabs in the Middle East have the markings they have. White belly spots and flashy white are just part of the breed. Records exists of "parti-color mares" given as tribute. Frankly, whatever color a purebred horse is must be in the breed somewhere. There is debate about the roan and the white Arabs - neither are supposed to happen. I read a wonderful article about Arabian Roan and am saddened that such horses are rarely registered. There is a white mare in my guys pedigree - her papers were pulled when it was determined that she was a true white. Rare colors happen - rarely. I am glad that now, with DNA, if a foal of a rare color is born that foal can be verified and should be registered. The only eligibility requirement has been and should be descent from registered parents.

01-06-2009, 12:40 PM	#9
RiddleMeThis Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,887	oh I am! ~RMT Ill be waiting for oyu JB __________________ Can't argue with flawed logic I guess. Equine Genetics Blog - Updated November 11th with Sabino and Dominant White Pot, meet kettle.™ Exasperbation (n): the irrational desire to reason with the delusional.

01-06-2009, 12:43 PM	#10
charming Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2008 Location: Canada, eh! Posts: 2,133	What is COTH? Like I realize it's a forum but what does is stand for? (and what's the link? lol!) __________________ Triple C Appaloosas.

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