so question, can a sorrel turn into a palomino

sunrisegurl146 · 04-09-2008, 11:07 AM

ok so i have a 18 month morgan X quarter filly. her mom is a perfect chestnut while dads a faded black.

any way i have pictures from a long time ago (last october lol) and they suck. she had just turned 1 yr old. 3 months before the pictures and they were taken a week and a half before she was wormed.
but they work for colour.

shes darker in the pics but i checked her out last night and her mane and tail are turning white or at least a washed out blonde. not really flaxen any more. and her red is getting a lot of gold. lol any way here are the pictures i could find. ( oh and she had a cold at the time)
http://s256.photobucket.com/albums/h...t=sunrise1.jpg

http://s256.photobucket.com/albums/h...t=sunrise2.jpg

http://s256.photobucket.com/albums/h...nt=sunrise.jpg

Appylvr · 04-09-2008, 11:21 AM

There is no way a chestnut can turn into a palomino. BUT, there are many palomino foals that are born looking like chestnuts. With the sire and dam's color there would be no possible way your girl was a palomino. Except if the sire was actually a smokey black. Black with a dilute gene. Then he could throw buckskins and palominos.

Your girl look 100% chestnut with a beautiful flaxen mane and tail. As they shed their winter coats their color will change.

Mutrok · 04-09-2008, 11:23 AM

Chestnut w/flaxen mane and tail

Heavenly Jumper · 04-09-2008, 11:34 AM

There are MANY shades of chestnut, and just as many of palomino. It can come down to a genetic test to prove one or the other

Genetically, one cannot 'turn' into the other. But they can look like each other sometimes!

Believe it or not - this horse is chestnut!

This one is a palomino! (far left)

Anti-Silence · 04-09-2008, 01:37 PM

Nope, a sorrel can't turn palomino, and you're horse is sorrel... you're horse cannot be a palomino because neither parent has the creme gene...

Mutrok · 04-09-2008, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Silence

Nope, a sorrel can't turn palomino, and you're horse is sorrel... you're horse cannot be a palomino because neither parent has the creme gene...

The black sire could actually be smokey black (black + cream) and could throw a palomino if he is EeaaCrcr.

gardenmum · 04-09-2008, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mutrok

The black sire could actually be smokey black (black + cream) and could throw a palomino if he is EeaaCrcr.

Yeah, I was thinking that this COULD HAVE been the case when I was reading the OP's post and it said "faded black", but looking at the pics, a cute flaxen chestnut.

Haas Horse Farm · 04-09-2008, 04:07 PM

But the colors are wrong for palomino... that is the flaxen gene coming out. BTW flaxen is one of those frustrating things that is ambiguous and shows up when it wants to in breeds that do not have it as a norm. I have a friend who has bred flaxen to flaxen numerous times to try to get a grasp on it and 9 times out of 10 had self colored mane and tail.

livaliljequist · 04-09-2008, 08:44 PM

yup sorrel with flaxen mane and tail......my little filly is that way too

this is her at 4 months

This is her at a year almost

I thought that she was turning colors too but it turns out she is a sorrel rabicano

Haas Horse Farm · 04-09-2008, 09:15 PM

Be sure to post a summer slick photo of her... bet she will be a looker when she is shed off.

04-09-2008, 11:07 AM	#1
sunrisegurl146 Full Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Napanee, Ontario Posts: 188 Images: 7	so question, can a sorrel turn into a palomino ok so i have a 18 month morgan X quarter filly. her mom is a perfect chestnut while dads a faded black. any way i have pictures from a long time ago (last october lol) and they suck. she had just turned 1 yr old. 3 months before the pictures and they were taken a week and a half before she was wormed. but they work for colour. shes darker in the pics but i checked her out last night and her mane and tail are turning white or at least a washed out blonde. not really flaxen any more. and her red is getting a lot of gold. lol any way here are the pictures i could find. ( oh and she had a cold at the time) http://s256.photobucket.com/albums/h...t=sunrise1.jpg http://s256.photobucket.com/albums/h...t=sunrise2.jpg http://s256.photobucket.com/albums/h...nt=sunrise.jpg

04-09-2008, 11:21 AM	#2
Appylvr Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: California Posts: 7,007 Images: 307	There is no way a chestnut can turn into a palomino. BUT, there are many palomino foals that are born looking like chestnuts. With the sire and dam's color there would be no possible way your girl was a palomino. Except if the sire was actually a smokey black. Black with a dilute gene. Then he could throw buckskins and palominos. Your girl look 100% chestnut with a beautiful flaxen mane and tail. As they shed their winter coats their color will change. __________________ ~Tonya~ Teak~Coco~Baylee~Dolly~Rosie~Shilo~Jazzy A solitary ride through the bush is more beneficial than six months with the best psychiatrist

04-09-2008, 11:34 AM	#4
Heavenly Jumper Senior Member+ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Yokosuka, Japan Posts: 15,433 Images: 1323 Blog Entries: 270	There are MANY shades of chestnut, and just as many of palomino. It can come down to a genetic test to prove one or the other Genetically, one cannot 'turn' into the other. But they can look like each other sometimes! Believe it or not - this horse is chestnut! This one is a palomino! (far left) __________________ OMG I'm actually IN JAPAN! like, right now! .'~'. epi tan e epi tas .'~'. I've been SNOWBALLED X5!

04-09-2008, 01:37 PM	#5
Anti-Silence Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Alberta Posts: 2,699 Images: 741 Blog Entries: 144	Nope, a sorrel can't turn palomino, and you're horse is sorrel... you're horse cannot be a palomino because neither parent has the creme gene... __________________ The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? -- Psalm 27 RIP my beautiful Artist. I've Been Snowball'd!

04-09-2008, 08:44 PM	#9
livaliljequist Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 523 Images: 20	yup sorrel with flaxen mane and tail......my little filly is that way too this is her at 4 months This is her at a year almost I thought that she was turning colors too but it turns out she is a sorrel rabicano __________________ To have a friend that runs like the wind means to know what it is really like to be free Leah Ward

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