[doublebarr]

Originally Posted by Stormyheart6160

Well, it looks like the horses from THIS country will be safe, starting next year...............

One more VICTORY for the anti horse slaughter crowd!!!!
Stormyheart6160

I just made this thread I posted.

Cross posting from your other thread:

Actually, this does nothing to stop the export of American horses for slaughter to market to either Canada or the EU. Once again, you need to read the entire law, not the PR clips by biased orgs:

The new EU rules will become effective in April 2010, requiring that either slaughtered animals have complete health records showing they have not received banned substances or a 180 day quarantine for the horses. Claude Boissonnealut, head of the CFIAs red meat programs, has indicated that Canada will likely abide by the 180 day quarantine, as mandated by the EU.

So now, the horses will be mandated to have an EXTRA 180 days on feedlots before they can be slaughtered. If the cost of horsemeat supports it (just as the cost of beef does) then they will still be bought, shipped across country lines and kept on feedlots or "large pastures" for the quarantine period.

To top it off, theses horses cannot be given ANY medication that is not approved for the full 180 days. So, this will open them up to all kinds of outbreaks of disease from simple to horrible (think strangles undoctored and unchecked and any simple injury can result in massive infection and death) while in quarantien on theses lots.

Yep, Anti Slaughter should be sooooo happy.

[Stormyheart6160]

Yep! We ARE happy!

[doublebarr]

*cross posting again*

Obviously. And it is par for the course. The horses do not benefit, the law does not change the fact that they will still be slaughtered and that their conditions are actually worsened because of this "Anti win", but hey it's just "your" kind of win.

[LindaMM]

Originally Posted by Stormyheart6160

Yep! We ARE happy!

Why????

The ban they put in place only has the potential to increase the misery of horses that will STILL BE SLAUGHTERED...

Just like shutting down th eplants in the US extended the misery of US horses who were sent to Canada or Mexico to STILL BE SLAUGHTERED.

The ban was NOT done to stop horse slaughter... but to regulate the quality of the meat that gets produced. All they had in mind was protecting the consuming public.

[PyroTekNik333]

Originally Posted by Stormyheart6160

There aren't enough horses in this country to keep "several slaughter houses around the country" going. When we only had 3 plants operating there still wasn't enough horses.....they were bringing them down from Canada!

True, but that was when the overall the horse market was good, now with the economy and horse market the way it is I would bet that there is a much larger market for horse slaughter.

[Feliche]

No, I think that people should just let them go because they can't afford to feed them anymore That way they can just starve in the wild where nobody has to watch. That's WAY better than a quick death by the bolt gun.

That's what's happening around here. Our horse 'neighbors' never treated their animals right and hardly fed them, and kept BREEDING their stupid mare to their ugly "stud", which was a "papered horse" so that automatically makes him breeding material, right? The mare is pregnant again. The neighbors just got kicked out of the house by their landlord. Guess what?

They LEFT their ******* animals there to STARVE. They didn't ask neighbors to feed them. Chris hasn't seen anybody tossing them food. How is this any less cruel a death than slaughter?? Fortunately, these horses will probably be seized because the owners are gone...but the people that let their horses go? What are they to do? How will they be repremanded? I would like to know.

What would have been better than banning horse slaughter? How about making sure their treatment is HUMANE en route.

[Haas Horse Farm]

Unfortunately you cannot make horse owners take care of horses with regulations. It doesn't take a rocket scientists to figure that out. How is this going to keep people from starving the horses that they already own. To those who think that abused horses are what is slaughtered... sorry this is incorrect. A horse going to slaughter is just like a cow... must be standing on all feet, able to see from both eyes, etc. More that has changed since they wanted all this animal safety stuff... so where a horse or cow that was injured and had a broken bone or such that could once be slaughtered and fed to zoo animals... well that is no longer. I believe that horses have not fed zoo animals since 1979. Sorry I do not see where this is a win for any side.

[PyroTekNik333]

Originally Posted by Feliche

No, I think that people should just let them go because they can't afford to feed them anymore That way they can just starve in the wild where nobody has to watch. That's WAY better than a quick death by the bolt gun.

That's what's happening around here. Our horse 'neighbors' never treated their animals right and hardly fed them, and kept BREEDING their stupid mare to their ugly "stud", which was a "papered horse" so that automatically makes him breeding material, right? The mare is pregnant again. The neighbors just got kicked out of the house by their landlord. Guess what?

They LEFT their ******* animals there to STARVE. They didn't ask neighbors to feed them. Chris hasn't seen anybody tossing them food. How is this any less cruel a death than slaughter?? Fortunately, these horses will probably be seized because the owners are gone...but the people that let their horses go? What are they to do? How will they be repremanded? I would like to know.

What would have been better than banning horse slaughter? How about making sure their treatment is HUMANE en route.

*insert sarcasm* Oh yes, you're right, thats much better.
ETA I agree with Haas the weak and sickly horses aren't the ones going to slaughter for profit, there was just a thread here about a horse that was to sickly for the kill buyers.

[SaddleTrail]

" Setting a big tray next to Stormys pc filled with half melted chocolate bars and marsh mellows and a huge glass of milk"


There ya go kiddo. Im here just have to pick and choose my times a bit heheh

I responded on the other thread about the Win for the Anti side.

I am going to be the devils advocate here so please bear with me.

I love horses, dogs and hate cats. When I say hate cats?? I mean HATE cats. There are way to many of them things around and they should all be put down instantly. Now this is my own emotion thing over cats.

We hear so many stories, see commercials wanting money to help out with the poor kittys. I say kill them all.
Now, on the other hand of this hatred for cats, I would never ever hurt one. My soul would die before I ever hurt a cat.
On this note, how can I feel such hatred for a animal yet not want to ever hurt one?

It is simple. I love animals. I dont ever want to see a animal hurt, yet with so many cats being born because no one wants to have them fixed, stating things like, " you dont own a cat, they own you etc etc".

My Mama was brought up during the depression, it changed her soul and she always made sure we had plenty of food, our clothes were neat and clean. We werent allowed to just waste things.

So what I am trying to get around to is, no one including me ever wants to see or hear of a horse being slaughtered, yet on the other hand we have such a over abundance of them, the economy is so bad that folks are freeing the animals, starving.

Instead of letting what I consider abuse happen, lets let them go to plants who will do the so called dirty deed, use the meat carcasses to feed other animals. The polar bears are slowly being pushed into starvation. Why not use the horse to save another loved animal?

Lord, I am just rambling here, sorry!!

[Feliche]

Originally Posted by PyroTekNik333

*insert sarcasm* Oh yes, you're right, thats much better.

The weak and sickly horses aren't the ones going to slaughter, there was just a thread here about a horse that was to sickly for the kill buyers.

I believe you misinterpreted my OWN sarcasm. The animals I am referring to are NOT sickly horses, these are healthy horses that are being RELEASED into the "wild" by their owners that can't feed them or even GIVE them away in this economy.