[alana529]

Originally Posted by belle4

Kim,

Then the question becomes what to do with the chain if you are not using it.

It's pretty easy to remove, you just open the links up. You leave 1 or 2 to attach the snap to the leadrope.

[Tony The Pony]

it is not legal in showmanship to have a chain over the nose in 4-h shows. I agree wtih the o thers that said it should be under as well

[Love_Angelina]

Originally Posted by Oh'When

That is not totaly true, i was doing a 4-H showman ship club and one girl had a very excitable horse but she did not put the chan ver the nose and the judge told her to put the chain over the nose, she ended up getting 1st..... just pinting that out... this has nothing to do with the original post

In my county it is. You will get disqualified, I was told by the experts.

[freedom32]

For 4-H rules vary from state to state, check your rule book. In PA it is legal to have the chain over the nose, but I agree, it doesn't give the best impression. My daughter showed my Paint filly in showmanship classes this year, and I did put the chain over her nose, but looped around the noseband once. She was lipchained and tied as a yearling by an incompetant farrier (before I got her), and has issues about the chain that we are overcoming. She is young and excitable, so I like having the chain there if its needed, but gets upset because she is still sensitive about it. Looping it through the noseband keeps it from having alot of bite. They did place well, but also these were smaller local shows. Next year they'll be able to use the chain under the chin, and hopefull soon not at all.