[K Riding Girl]

ok so i have this stuff for human hair, and its kinda like show sheen, except not plastic-y and bad for the horse's hair

and so i was wondering if i could replace the show sheen with the sheer brilliance?

Ingredients:
cyclopentasiloxane, dimethicone, sd alcohol 40-b, panthenol, ethyl ester of hydrolized silk, benzophenone-4, c12-15, alkyl benzoate, fragrance (parfum) phenoxyethanol, methylparaben, prophlparaben, benzyl alcohol, benzyl benzoate, benzyl cinnamate, benzyl salicylate, citral, citronellol, geraniol, hexyl chinnamai, butylphenyl......................... omg! the words are so tiny!............ methylopropainol, limone, linalool, hydroxyishelxyll, 3-cyclohexene, caroxaldehyde, alpha-isomethyl lonone


whoa - looking at all that stuff for the first time makes me not wanna put it on my hair!!!!

so what do you think? now im thinking no - but what is your opinion?

[alphapony]

Get Cowboy Magic Super Bodyshine! Its not at all bad for your horse or his hair. It's not oil based either which is really great. I've put it on my pony everyday for at week once, his body and tail, and he never looked better. His hair and skin didn't get dry at all. Just remember to use things in moderation.

[K Riding Girl]

thanks so much!

[ReinerByHeart]

Make sure you find a product without silicone. Silicone will make the horse feel really soft and look really shiny, but it really coats the hair and over time dries it out and makes it brittle. Products such as Show Sheen and Cowboy Magic contain silicone, so I suggest you avoid them.

I really like Rio Vista Equine Shine, a silicone free product. For daily use, use the Rio Vista Coat-So-Soft (a daily conditioner), and when you want that shine for the show use the Equine Shine. They are much healthier on the coat for the long term, and I've been really pleased with how much shine and softness my horses get from it. Google it

[daisykristy]

I just found this and would like to share it as a different point of view:

There has been a lot of controversy lately about silicones in hair products. I am a member of a naturally curly hair website and many of the members are anti-silicone because of the claims that silicones bond to the hair and do not allow moisture into the hair shaft. Supposedly once the silicone is on the hair it acts as a barrier between your hair shaft and any moisture. Is all of this true, or is it just a myth? I will sometimes use a silicone product, but then later feel guilty that I am suffocating my hair, and wash it all off. I think it would be great if you can let everyone know the truth behind silicones.

The Right Brain’s Response:
Questions about silicones being bad for your hair come up a lot. But you can just call us the cosmetic mythbusters, Carly, because silicones do not really cause the problem you described. Shampoos and conditioners that contain a high level of high molecular weight, water insoluble silicones can build up on hair, that much is true. And if you over-use products like this everyday, it is possible to end up with hair that feels weighed down and limp. But even this does happen, you’re not really suffocating your hair.

3 Reasons Why Silicone Can’t Suffocate Hair:

1) Even if you didn’t wash all the silicone out, we’ve never seen any data that indicates that a small amount of silicone residue acts as a “barrier” between hair shaft and moisture. On average, your hair contains about 8 to 14% water by weight but it will equilibrate to the ambient humidity. In other words, it will pick up moisture when it’s very humid and it will lose moisture when it’s very dry. Slight silicone residue won’t substantially change that. Now, if you slather on a heavy layer of a silicone hair treatment product, that’s a different story!

2) Even though your hair absorbs moisture from the environment, its state of dryness isn’t completely controlled by this external water. Dryness is more a function of how damaged your hair is and how much natural lipids it contains.

3) Even if you did block your hair from absorbing moisture, the silicone would act like a moisturizing agent because it would plasticize and lubricate your hair. It would essentially fight the effects of dryness.

The Beauty Brains Bottom Line:

If you use a silicone containing product and you like the way it makes your hair look and feel, DONT WORRY ABOUT IT! Don’t feel guilty because some people tell you that it’s bad for your hair. Oil products like Ojon can work too if you don’t want to use silicone.

[daisykristy]

Under the "dryness" part...

The truth is, silicone (the molecule pictured above) is one of the MOST effective ingredients for conditioning hair or skin. In both cases it serves as a protective barrier. In fact, in skin lotions dimethicone (a form of silicone) is so good it’s approved as an over the counter drug ingredient.

In hair care products you’ll see a mixture of dimethicone and cyclomethicone typically used. Again, dimethicone is heavier and coats the hair; cyclomethicone is very thin and helps to spread the dimethicone, it also evaporates so it’s good for use in lightweight products like leave in conditioners or volumizing products.

The Brains‘ Bottom Line:
Silicones are good moisturizers for hair and skin and are commonly used in many, many products. We’ve never seen any data that shows they dry out or damage hair.

I got it from this link... http://thebeautybrains.com/2006/08/1...out-your-hair/

[NickJ]

The problem with silicones is that they make hair look good and shiny, but it's only temporary. They really wrecked my horse's hair over time, I didn't realize how much until I gave them up. I don't believe they are conditioning at all, but fake shine, fake 'health', yeah they are good for that.

I gave them up and only then found out what really nice, healthy, thick hair was like.