[GingerSnap]

Still no email....I am heading over to pay the vet maybe she called him and left me out of the loop but more likely she has just been busy soooooo tune in later for an update HOPEFULLY!

[ryu2832]

Originally Posted by mtroika

"Keeping in mind, mares ovulate between 4 in the morning and 10 AM. If your shipment arrives and your vet says she has just ovulated, do not panic. This is still good timing. The egg will rest in the Ova Fossa for a few days. This is the site of conception. If you inseminate too early, the sperm arrives but are weakened by the time the egg does."

My Trakehner mare always ovulates early afternoon.

The Equine Reproduction website has a number of good articles for timing insemination.

http://www.equine-reproduction.com/articles/index.shtml

[mtroika]

Originally Posted by GingerSnap

That was helpful info!!! Yesterday she had not ovulated so he gave her a shot of something so Ovulation occured between 9 am yesterday and 12:30 pm today when the vet went to do the AI. The sperm was collected yesterday afternoon and on it's way we had it in less than 24 hours and it was put in the mare in under 24 hrs from collection. Now this could very well be an isolated case and something just didn't work out. I haven't heard back from the breeder but I am sure I will by tomorrow.

I agree that I shouldn't have to cover the cost of the next shipment or the shipping cost, this was not our fault!

I hope this is just an isolated case to!! I am sure it is. And I am sure they wont make you pay the fees. I cant wait to here what they say about the semen.

Originally Posted by ryu2832

My Trakehner mare always ovulates early afternoon.

The Equine Reproduction website has a number of good articles for timing insemination.

http://www.equine-reproduction.com/articles/index.shtml

Thanks I read the articles on that site to The quote I put is from another equine repro site, they were just saying most mares not all ovulated between those times. Gosh I hope my mare ovuated 10 and 4am, it would have been perfect for her sperm

[Mare]

If it was a bad shipment I don't know how they can make you pay for another one. Now if it was because of not catching the mare in time then that wouldn't be their fault. But a note or call from the vet should be good enough. I would call the stallion owner myself and talk to them.

[Acme Acres]

Mare, they can make you pay for another shipment but the collection fee should be waived depending on the contract. Also, if a report was sent with the semen as to the motility, extender, volume, and it was properly packaged, then a claim would have to be filed for damaged goods with the carrier.

[GingerSnap]

Originally Posted by Acme Acres

Mare, they can make you pay for another shipment but the collection fee should be waived depending on the contract. Also, if a report was sent with the semen as to the motility, extender, volume, and it was properly packaged, then a claim would have to be filed for damaged goods with the carrier.

She isn't charging for a 2nd shipment or the shipping fees! This lady really is very nice to work with! So we shall try again in a few weeks!

[shell]

I am so sorry. I feel like I jinxed you! Next time I will keep my mouth shut!!

[Equine Repro]

Originally Posted by Acme Acres

Tina, what was it when he was collected? (Motility that is)? One shot of Lute can correct her having already ovulated 3-4 days after given the shot she should be back in heat and it's very safe for them compared to all the other **** people want to do with their mares to get them in foal.

You must wait at least 5 days after ovulation for prostaglandin to be effective. And, average time from giving the shot to ovulation is 9.5 days. Just a timeline for you to be aware of.

Hope that helps!

Kathy st.Martin
Equine Reproduction Short Courses
http://www.equine-reproduction.com

[Acme Acres]

Yes Kathy, I am aware of that. The point of it that I was making is that AFTER the shot was given, 3-4 days later she should start coming back into heat, not that you gave the shot 3-4 days after ovulation.

Tina, that's great that she's footing the bill for the 2nd shipment. Some stallion owners are good to deal with

[GingerSnap]

We are going to wait until she comes in on her own and then we will try again. So we will start over in a few weeks. Thanks guys for all the info and suggestions!