[nicz2cu]

I should make another thread, but many answers in this one make me want to keep it here .

"D" has been handled since birth, started her lessons with the farrier as soon as two months of age and she has never been a problem .

At 3 1/2 and a fairly new farrier...she has started acting out to my shame.

I do have to question one thing and see if it makes sense , he trims fronts first, then the back and then goes back in the same order to rasp and clean up. That is not how she has been trimmed at anytime before and I'm wondering if the sequence is what's causing the problem. I have never known anyone to trim in that order .

I also need to say that, while I like him... he gave me the impression that he had studied under a well known farrier for a longer period of time than he did. I do have the name of a couple that are certified journeymen ( is that the correct title ? ) and considering calling them .

Now, on to what others have said... he worked her hard in circles the last time she acted up and it seemed to get through to her faster than just letting go of her foot and letting her fall.

[EVOO]

Originally Posted by nicz2cu

I should make another thread, but many answers in this one make me want to keep it here .

"D" has been handled since birth, started her lessons with the farrier as soon as two months of age and she has never been a problem .

At 3 1/2 and a fairly new farrier...she has started acting out to my shame.

I do have to question one thing and see if it makes sense , he trims fronts first, then the back and then goes back in the same order to rasp and clean up. That is not how she has been trimmed at anytime before and I'm wondering if the sequence is what's causing the problem. I have never known anyone to trim in that order .

I also need to say that, while I like him... he gave me the impression that he had studied under a well known farrier for a longer period of time than he did. I do have the name of a couple that are certified journeymen ( is that the correct title ? ) and considering calling them .

Now, on to what others have said... he worked her hard in circles the last time she acted up and it seemed to get through to her faster than just letting go of her foot and letting her fall.

Horses can very much be creatures of habit. That's why new sounds, sights, smells, places, etc excite them. It's new and foreign and it makes them uncomfortable. If she has always been trimmed one way the new sequence could be throwing her off. If the farrier does a good job with the hooves however, I wouldn't switch just because the horse doesn't like the order he handles her hooves. A good farrier, one who trims properly, is hard to find. I would work with the horse independently to get her used to her hooves being handled in any order and repeatedly. (Which is a good thing for her to be accustomed to regardless of your farrier's habits)

All that said, how does the horse like the farrier in general? Is there anything else different about the way he trims? Is she used to a hoof stand and he doesn't use one? Or vice versa? Does he hold her legs higher than the last one did? For a longer period? Is he rougher, making jerkier moves?

[Beeks]

Originally Posted by xlilxonex

I look forward to seeing the pictures of her being 100% behaved with the farrier. =) She looks great!! What a lucky horse!

Not with the farrier, but me, and at great peril to my ego I think it goes without saying, that this is NOT normally the angle I like to post of myself.

This was after only the first time I sent her around the arena. I picked up her feet first before I asked my farrier to do it.





He had not had the opportunity to start the trim yet. Look at those clod hoppers.

[sorrell]

When we had a horse that acted out, the farrier would always make us take them in their stalls to do them there and for some reason, they always stood better there. Wehther it was because they were familiar with the stall, felt more comfortable there, or whether it was the confined space that subdued them, they always did better.

[tlwidener]

You done good, Beeks. I've done the same thing and had god luck. I had one mare that no matter what I did, we had to tie her back feet up to trim or shoe.

[sunrisegurl146]

Ah Sally is a role model after Athena's heart

When I was working with Athena with her back feet. She confirmed my suspicisions that she was NOT scared, nervous, confused etc. But just plain did not like picking them.

I watched the woman who had known her all her life try to pick up back hooves..and Athena tried to kick the woman in the head.

I tried all the tricks..and like Sally..Athena was to smart for them.

So..we did the same thing you did. I tried to pick up her hoof..if she refused, kicked out, tried to bite me..she'd be sent off. I'd work her for about 30 seconds the first couple of times..and started to gradual make the time longer before she stopped and I tried again.

After about 5 minutes (BTW she wasn't running all the time..she was walking for alot of it..just as long as she was MOVING) She was tired. So, was I. I walked up..ran my hand down her bum...and picked up her hind leg. She picked up. NO fuss. Tried the other one. Nothing.

I've never had a problem since!

Sorry to hi.jack!

Also to the girl with the horse having issues with her new farrier..same thing over here..I'm getting to the point where I'm going to ask my farrier's wife to scheduele us so that hes not late for anybody else..and every time shes rude to him..she gets sent off. We've tried everything else.

Horses...LOL *shakes head*

[Beeks]

Though she is running for punishment, I think she looks pretty darn cute doing it.

OK...I had tons more to upload but their must be a bee in the upload ointment as they are taking 15 minutes each to load up. So you only get these two for now.

counter clockwise


and when I started to get dizzy

Clockwise. (I have NO inner ear. A Somersault makes me dizzy)


There were a few weeds in the pen when we got started, but I think we plowed most of them up.

[Beeks]

I always like to include a before picture too. This was last May, just a few days after I got her and AFTER a good grooming. She looked like a big boney Yeti before grooming.

[nicz2cu]

I agree, she should behave regardless.

I guess because I caught a hint of untruth and considering that she's been trimmed by four other farriers in her lifetime... gives me pause.

Anyway, thanks for letting me ask on OP's thread .

Originally Posted by EVOO

Horses can very much be creatures of habit. That's why new sounds, sights, smells, places, etc excite them. It's new and foreign and it makes them uncomfortable. If she has always been trimmed one way the new sequence could be throwing her off. If the farrier does a good job with the hooves however, I wouldn't switch just because the horse doesn't like the order he handles her hooves. A good farrier, one who trims properly, is hard to find. I would work with the horse independently to get her used to her hooves being handled in any order and repeatedly. (Which is a good thing for her to be accustomed to regardless of your farrier's habits)

All that said, how does the horse like the farrier in general? Is there anything else different about the way he trims? Is she used to a hoof stand and he doesn't use one? Or vice versa? Does he hold her legs higher than the last one did? For a longer period? Is he rougher, making jerkier moves?

[nicz2cu]

She looks much better now, good job .

Originally Posted by Beeks

I always like to include a before picture too. This was last May, just a few days after I got her and AFTER a good grooming. She looked like a big boney Yeti before grooming.