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Old 09-01-2008, 06:52 PM   #11
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Old 09-01-2008, 06:52 PM   #12
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I ride my gelding with a "sidepull" leather hackamore. It's just a rolled leather noseband with d-rings on the sides for the headstall and reins, and a buckle under the chin for size adjustment. I think it's meant for an english bridle but I use it with a one-ear. It makes all of the above hackamores look like torture devices by comparison. Really it is not much different than riding with just a halter except it is stiffer so it seems to work better.

Gus seems to really like it. I can walk up to him in the corral and he will stick his nose through the noseband

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10658ERNIE's post was incredibly informative about the different kinds of hackamores. I say browse through that post and pick which one sounds most suiting for your horse. I don't see the jumping hackamore in there, though. It is basically just like a sidepull, but more "English-y." Sidepull would be another option, or heck, a halter does just a dandy job as well. The big thing is to make sure whatever you get her properly fits.
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This is like the one I use It sounds like the one Tallpine uses too.

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Old 09-01-2008, 07:13 PM   #15
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Yep, that's exactly it

Is there a specific name for those? We got a couple of them from Petsmart before they closed out all their StateLine tack a couple years ago.
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Old 09-01-2008, 07:24 PM   #16
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Yep, that's exactly it

Is there a specific name for those? We got a couple of them from Petsmart before they closed out all their StateLine tack a couple years ago.
I've seen them called a bunch of things. But I usually see them advertised as jumping hackamores
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Old 09-01-2008, 10:22 PM   #17
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I don't like hackamores. If a horse is broke well enough I like to use a sidepull. I use to run barrels with a sidepull. What people forget is to stau off the reins. Reins are like a telephone, if you're not going to make a call hang up the phone!
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Sidepulls jumping cavesson, or jumping hackamore, HERE IS THE LOW DOWN.........................


FOR WESTERN STYLE RIDERS ...........The sidepull is a modern design inspired by the bosal. It is a heavy noseband with side rings that attach the reins on either side of the head, allowing very direct pressure to be applied from side to side. The noseband is made of leather, rawhide, or rope with a leather or synthetic strap under the jaw, held on by a leather or synthetic headstall. Sidepulls are primarily used to start young horses or on horses that cannot carry a bit. While severity can be increased by using harder or thinner rope, a sidepull lacks the sophistication of the bosal. The primary advantage of a sidepull over the bosal is that it gives stronger direct lateral commands and is a bit easier for an unsophisticated rider to use. Once a horse understands basic commands, however, the trainer needs to shift to either a bosal or to a snaffle bit to further refine the horse's training. If made of soft materials, a sidepull is also a good bridle for beginners to use, so that they don't injure their horse's mouth as they learn the rein aids.



a western-style sidepull


ON THE OTHER HAND English riders sometimes use a jumping cavesson, or jumping hackamore, which is a type of hackamore that consists of a heavy leather nosepiece (usually with a cable or rope inside) with rings on the sides for reins, similar to a sidepull, but more closely fitting and able to transmit more subtle commands. A jumping cavesson is put on a standard English-style headstall and often is indistinguishable at a distance from a standard bridle. It is often used on horses who cannot tolerate a bit or on those who have mouth or tongue injuries.
THIS IS THE ENGLISH STYLE JUMPING cavesson, or jumping hackamore...................HOPE THAT HELPS

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Old 09-02-2008, 07:32 AM   #19
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Okay, thanks!

I guess I'm sort of a weirdo since I'm using an english jumping hackamore on a western headstall, and with a western saddle unless I'm riding bareback. Riding with a loose rein and mostly trying to neck rein/seat cues.

My horse also does okay with a snaffle bit. I just started using this because I thought it was more forgiving of my mistakes. We are doing so well with it that I don't really see the point in changing to something else, unless we were going to show, which I'm really not interested in.
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My son uses a Jim Warner on his gelding because he needs a little more woo --it all depends on the horse and rider, all my horses neck rein, I have sidepulls just don't like them much, with a halter I go under the chin not on the sides and all my colts have nice flex and turn by the time I put a bit in thier mouth --I love the combo 3 piece it works great on young and old. I have retrained a lot of old gaming horses that had trouble and by the time I am done --no more hard combo. bits and thier heads are down and working good with the little beetle or 3 peice combo.
So go with what make you and your horse happy and god luck
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