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Hi everyone, Does anyone have a Bates Caprilli Close Contact or a Northrun Ashland? Comments, ...
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    Reviews/comments on Bates Caprilli CC or Northrun Ashland?

    Hi everyone,
    Does anyone have a Bates Caprilli Close Contact or a Northrun Ashland? Comments, complaints, compliments?
    I am looking for a CC saddle that I can use everyday (I do Pony club and 3 day eventing) but is straight enough I can use for mild dressage too. I especially don'twant a saddle that pushes my leg forward. I find jumping saddles tend to do that and it drives me crazy!! What do you think of the Cair pannels? It seems like either you love them or hate them and got them reflocked with wool. oh, another question, where did you get them reflocked?
    Edit: what kind of position do they put you in?
    another edit: thanks for the suggestion, but I have already seen horsetackreview! for those of you who haven't seen it check it out it is an AWESOME tack site!!
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    I don't have any personal experience with either saddles mentioned but this is a great tack review site that I often refer to when buying tack! http://www.horsetackreview.com/resul...tact%20Saddles Theres the link for the reviews of close contact saddles...there are a whole bunch on the Caprilli and a few of the Northrun.


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    I like a narrow twist and found the Bates Caprilli AP version waaay wide for me. But I rode once or twice in a CC on a schoolie and it seemed better. I think Bates and Northrun are both quality saddles with good basic balance, and which one you like best and puts you in a better position is going to depend on you. Hopefully you can trial them and see.
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    Maybe it was just the wrong size for me, but my old Bates CC is NOT something I ever would have recommended for doing dressage in I have never had a chair seat so bad, and my stirrup leathers seemed to constantly be "at war" with my shins It was definitely a nice saddle, but the AP or Event might be better suited for what you are looking for

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    The bates CC is not a particularly "straight" saddle. It is pretty forward in the flap and I found it put my leg way out in front of me.

    A northrun is a very flat saddle, sort of the opposite of the deep seated bates...they're pretty different saddles. Have you tried either one?

    Also, a full conversion to wool is pretty expensive. I think I was quoted $600 to convert foam to wool and I imagine that converting from CAIR to wool would be more.

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    That's my problem with CCs, they always plunk me down in chair seat and I can't stand it. But don't most jumping saddles do that? Bates and Northrun are both around $1700 new....I'm thinking maybe I should get a HDR or collegiate cc, and then save up a bit for a dressage saddle. I was at a tack sale the other day and there was this GREAT old Kieffer but the seat was way too big for me

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    There is a poster with a gently used 17" northrun for sale, I think $850.

    Not all CC saddles do that. I'm riding in a crosby equilibrium right now which is a very flat seat and low in the pommel, wider in the seat than a PDN, and fits the horses great.

    I think you might be accidentally trying a lot of AP saddles which do have a propensity for a chair seat. You might be better off getting a used CC and a used dressage, though I rode an awful lot of dressage in my Tad Coffin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kb1gra View Post

    Also, a full conversion to wool is pretty expensive. I think I was quoted $600 to convert foam to wool and I imagine that converting from CAIR to wool would be more.

    I was quoted $250 to switch my CAIR panels to wool. I can't imagine doing dressage in the BAtes CC.

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    ive ride in a bates cc quite often...and the all purpose one. i tend to like the a/p one better but both took some getting used to. they are great for holding you in your position and a med. length stirrup to longer stirrup. They are super comfy if you are going to be in the saddle for a long time...its been my savior foxhunting!!
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    I have the Ashland Northrun that's for sale. It's a large 17 or maybe it's a 17.5. I also have a smaller 16.5" that's in my pics album here. It's kinda well-used. The new one might be in the album, too. I'm not sure about dressage, since I have never tried that. But the twist and seat are wide enough and flat enough that I can ride either a longer or shorter stirrup. The 16.5 seat fits me well and I have a slightly long thigh, so the flaps are not too forward. The 16.5 is not chari seat. With the too-big Ashland, it's starting to feel a little that way. The newer one is for sale only b/c it's too big for me. I won't take less than $700 + shipping w/ leathers & irons for it.

    What about a late model Crosby Prix des Nations or Crosby Centennial? The current Prix has a slightly deeper and wider seat, padded flaps but no knee rolls but you could add some. If you don't buy it too large, it shouldn't be chair seat but the flaps might be a little forward. The Centennial has many different configs, so you might be about to order it to suit you.

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