[ryu2832]

So someone I know had their stallion 'stolen'. He disappeared on day, turns out the trainer had taken him off to another state and did not leave any contact information for the owner. I basically took an entire breeding season to get him back--he was in pretty bad shape when he got home.

Anyway, the suspicion is that he covered a lot of mares last season that would be hitting the ground about now and through a little investigation the owner has discovered other offspring in the immediate area.

The owner has only been paid and authorized breeding to one mare, no one else has a contract or has paid a stud fee. Some of these people are now applying for 'hardship registration'. I'm estimating 30-40 offspring over the last 3 years.

I don't know anything about QH registration--is there a way to stop the registration of these foals? What recourse does the owner have?

[Jess!]

I would file a lawsuit against the trainer that took the horse.

[countryacres]

I would file a a lwasuit also.

I don't think they can do a hardship registeration. That is more like a thing of appys. Cause they show color but don't have registered parents. And then the horse as to be fixed before they will do that.

With the AQHA have to have registered parents and signed papers. I would contact the AQHA. I would think that the owners trying to register these foals need to go after the trainer for their money back. I don't see how the AQHA could register them when the real owner didn't sign papers.

[ryu2832]

I know that 5 have recieved hardship registration.

They didn't get any papers from the owner because he didn't know the foals existed.

I don't know anything about the QH registration process, like I said, but them seem to be able to get the horses registered without much trouble.

[ryu2832]

I won't be happening anymore. They collected him and made a bunch of frozen straws then gelded him.

[countryacres]

Well, if I was the owners I would be calling the AQHA and making a huge fuss. I would also sue the trainer for not only my lost breeding fees that I would have gotten if he was there to breed with, but also my breeding fee for however many foals get registered.

I am however suprised that the AQHA is registering them so easy. If the owner has not talked with the AQHA I suggest they do soon.

I know when I delt with the APHA we had to prove that the stallion owners where compiting fraud and then had to go threw a long process and have them DNA typed. It was not an easy deal.

[Lexy]

You can not register with AQHA under a "hardship" situation. There is no such thing with AQHA.

Since you said that the owner authorized one breeding, then there should have been a breeding report sent in with the one horse on it.

Hmmmm?? I wonder.

Did the owner file the breeding report himself or did he sign the breeding report and give it to the trainer to file? If he signed it and gave it to the trainer, there is nothing to stop the trainer from adding mares to it before sending it in. If that is what happened, I am not sure the owner has any recourse as his signature would be on the breeding report and would stand as proof that he knew of the breedings....... even tho he didn't.

If this is what happened, hard lesson learned.

[countryacres]

I bet they still could get something out of it. Just proving the breeding happened after the stallion was stolen. Then they would be getting into forgiry (sorry baddd spelling) or falsifing documents.

[ryu2832]

I have strongly suggested that he contact the AQHA.

I don't know if some of the mares are paints or not.

I hope the trainer goes to jail over this.

[Blistering Winds]

Never heard of a hardship other than the stallion owner has to 'resubmit" a breeding report with that mare on it.

that is the only "hardship" ive' EVER heard of.

Something just doesn't sound right.

Does he have a police report from when the hrose was stolen? Submit that to the AQHA and they can put a hold on ALL babies and even those that are already registered.