[PeggySue]

and I have emailed the reporter to see if she can get those for us

Purina DID not notify all of it's dealers we have TWO MEMBERS attesting to that

[CJ]

GAh.. almost out of feed and its C.Acres & H.Edge. I printed that PDF link out and 'll be taking it with me to the store on Monday. Thx.

[Dawn]

Originally Posted by MissCriss

Dawn, why do you feed the Enrich but not the other Purina products???

BeanBGone, maybe it would be a good idea to post a thread on the questions you have .

While some of their other feeds are fixed formula, it's too difficult to get the detailed info that I want out of them. But I do have enough info to know that none of their feeds (besides Ultium) are something that I would consider feeding in the first place because of the high grain content.

Though I am still 'testing the waters' so to speak about the Enrich. I was more than happy with the Born to Win. The Enrich is supposed to be the same thing just with a slightly altered vit/min package.

Having said that, Purina is far from the only company that produces feeds that I wouldn't feed. In fact, I can't think of a single company that doesn't have at least 2-5 products that I would never recommend be fed.

Now, having said all that. Purina did just come out with two new feeds. They look to be 'okay'. But from what I've heard, are not worth the price at all. Though if it were all that someone could get in their area, it would be good to take it into consideration. I don't think that they're available in my area yet.

[Dawn]

Originally Posted by PeggySue

and I have emailed the reporter to see if she can get those for us

Purina DID not notify all of it's dealers we have TWO MEMBERS attesting to that

Shouldn't they only be notifying the dealers that receive products from the plant in question?

[endurgirl]

Is the recall only horse feed? I only feed Purina Enrich 32 and TC Complete to my horses but I have some Purina calf feed out there.

[mgdhunter]

Dawn:

I think the point you made about many companies/mills out there that have had problems, and that you would not consider feeding your animals their products is how I feel also. Aftering reading the list from the URL, the list didn't start nor end with the letter "P"!!! Many problems,companies, and many mills involved. Most of the quality control problems are because of HUMAN error, and a company with its name on the tag is ultimately responsible. There are so many variables here and I can't wait to read the results of the feed being tested.

[PeggySue]

Originally Posted by Dawn

Shouldn't they only be notifying the dealers that receive products from the plant in question?

Yes THEY SHOULD but evidently not all dealers are being notified?!?!!

[Native Winds]

No confirmed aflatoxin-related horse health problems have been reported to date. This retrieval is being initiated as a precaution

There have not been any horses that have died of the toxin from this recall. It was a voluntary recalled due to the high potential of such toxin being in feeds. The Statesville plant was the initial site of the problem, however other sites are or were being looked into.

Every feed company will have problems. Its enevitable. Buckeye had bad mold problems with thier feed about 3 years ago and thier treats had a bad problem with mold as well. They took care of the problem but kept sending out bad feed to distributors (the feed store got a whole semi load of bad feed from Buckeye.) Buckeye has merged or partnered up or was sold to another company and remained to have the product naming rights. Buckeye is now not as good as it once was and sales have dropped dramatically.
Legends had problems a couple years ago and its manufactored via Southern States. They actually had horses die from that one.

Diamond Foods (mostly dog and cat foods but do manufactor yeast based supplements for horses.) They had a big recall from thier SC plant that also killed some dogs. Diamond is not that bad of a product and manufactor. Blame that on the ones that should have checked the ENTIRE loads of corn being purchased. Quality assurance went to the way side and those testing corn loads did not check what was on the bottom of loads that where concelled by the farmers involved.

Wayne horse feeds had a voluntary recall due to molding problems and only came from a certain batch. (location and number)

McCauly Brothers had a voluntary recall on some of thier feeds many years ago. That was about 14 years ago.

I happens folks. Some companies arent very vocal about things like they should be. Purina is not the only culprit. I like Purina feeds and never had any problems and only good things from them. I have fed Purina feeds (cat, dog, horse, goat, etc) for many years before Purina Mills seperated from Purina Ralston and Nestle.
Human foods have had recalls by different manufactures. Spinach, meats like hamburger, vegitable array of them, and other meat products. It happens. Some did not disclose problems before some ppl died from it. Is it wrong, you bet. Companies dont want to disclose they have a product problems in fear of losing customers to other brands of foods. They are ALL culprits in this. Some just get out the information faster.

We cant beat Purina Mills to death for they arent exempt from things like this happeneing. They should of had better comunications. Buckeye took thier sweet time getting recalls from thier moldy feeds and treats. THen turned around and sold bad food anyways. Some Reps are properly notified but they did not disclose it to the distributors or feed store dealers in fear of losing thier account with them.

[PeggySue]

woudl you like to show me PROOF of Buckeye's problem because BEFORE I started their feed i searched adn searched and found NOTHING!!!

in fact when I was feeding Buckeye the oldest bag of feed I got from a SMALL dealer was less then a month old from run date

Did you bother to read the news article I posted ??

[Native Winds]

First I want to address that snippy borderline rudeness and hatefullness is not a congeniality trait that I would be proud to press forth. I have not attacked anyone and I have not attacked you. However from other posts on other forums I have scouted this is your normal behavior and its not very becomming.

Secondly: in 2005 concerning Buckeye feed, as was written on a memo directed by my dealer stated and I qoute

July 10th 2005 Buckeye Feeds Dalton OH

We have had some concerns over some horsefeeds and treats from the Dalton manufactory that may contain mold due to the failure of possible mold inhibitors and moister content being to high. Buckeye has stopped the manufacturing of such feeds and treats that might be affected. To our knowledge there has been only been a few calls regarding such problem and the batch involved has been destroyed and returns of such feeds to dealers can be refunded or replaced. This incident seems to be very isolated and no Recall will be issued at this time. Products with mold should be destroyed.
Any questions regarding this matter should call. ................ batch #...blah blah....yadda" Pardon me for living. I remember it as a recall strike me down for making a mistake.

I sent back about 4 cases of moldy Peppermint treats, and 1 case of Licorice treats (which I think they stopped making that due to low sales) and few moldy bags of feed. Then we recieved a tractor trailor load of Buckeye Pleasure that was bad with a rather current date on them. It was sent back to the company and yet again we got a load of bad Pleasure feed. For all we know it was the same f riggin load.
Our Buckeye sales went down the toilet and we had to practically give away Buckeye Pleasure, Cadence, Seniors (all types) I got more from the floor than I did from the sales Rep. I once was in favor of Buckeye products, I have fed it and I got same results I was getting from Purina and Triple Crown. All good.

Hamilton Feed is the leading toll mill manufacturer in Michigan with two mills that consistently manufacture the highest quality feed that works for your animals. Through rigid procurement processes, stringent testing protocols and computerized manufacturing systems our feeds provide the highest quality feed conversions in the industry at a value producers can afford.
Our lifestyle feeds are designed with the enthusiast in mind. We are a proud manufacturing partner of Buckeye Nutrition, providing the market with leading nutritional solutions that have been fed to equine champions since 1910. We also provide a lineup of show feeds for competitors and a full complement of feeds for all species targeted to the hobby farmers' interests.

Yes I did "bother to read your news article" a bit with the additude...no?

In the article it states Botulism not Aflatoxin. Botulism is not Alfatoxin its Clostridium Botulinum. Alfatoxin is a mycotoxin from Aspergillus fungus and related.

Just because you do not care for Purina does not mean that you put down those who do. I like Purina and its NEVER failed me. I dont care for Nutrena products....I dont have to and those do that like Nutrena well OKey Dokey fine use what is working for the animal. If one is getting good results from Nutrena feeds then by all means feed it. I like Triple Crown over Ledgends though Ledgends is made by the same company.

Just because one doesnt agree with you doesnt make them wrong. I have found this to be a pattern in other forums you frequent. Just breath deeply and relax.