[Debbie z.]

Please sign this petition to protect the cruel and violent round up and removal of these wild horses. The website is WWWTHECLOUDFOUNDATION.ORG They are in process of taking away the history documented by Ginger Kathrens. She's been asked by Marty Lauer to document the foal and how he's reproduced over the last 10 yrs. The Bereau of Land Management contracted a indicted man to resume this capture. Why? We need to sign this and do everything in our power to stop these heartless people. I have talked to abc news worldwide news and e-mailed the President. I've been asking everyone to sign this. Please help me and others to help Cloud and the wild herd from being destroyed,put to sleep and braught to the slaughter house. Thanks you!!

[VivaLasVegas]

This is insane. An internet petition isn't going to help anyway - these horses are already being gathered. This round up needs to be done. There will not be enough room for these horses if the population keeps growing. As for these "heartless people" - I do more for these horses every day then 99.9% of the people complaining about how this gather should be stopped do. The people at the BLM and the people that volunteer love these horses. They are not bringing Clouds herd to be put down or slaughtered. The BLM only euthanizes sick or injured horses, and the BLM does NOT NOT NOT bring horses to slaughter. These horses will be made available on Sept 26th for National Wild Horse Adoption day. If you want to help them then adopt one. Please read the facts on the situation before jumping on the band wagon with a special interest group that lines their pockets with your donations.

Please read the facts here:
http://www.blm.gov/mt/st/en/fo/billi...pryorherd.html

By the way... What makes Cloud any more special than any other mustang that has proven himself as a stallion? But really, lets be honest, even he does get rounded up, the BLM will turn him back out. It wouldn't be worth it to keep him.

[XxLiveToRidexX]

The BLM will turn Cloud back out because of his coloring.

[Debbie z.]

Originally Posted by VivaLasVegas

This is insane. An internet petition isn't going to help anyway - these horses are already being gathered. This round up needs to be done. There will not be enough room for these horses if the population keeps growing. As for these "heartless people" - I do more for these horses every day then 99.9% of the people complaining about how this gather should be stopped do. The people at the BLM and the people that volunteer love these horses. They are not bringing Clouds herd to be put down or slaughtered. The BLM only euthanizes sick or injured horses, and the BLM does NOT NOT NOT bring horses to slaughter. These horses will be made available on Sept 26th for National Wild Horse Adoption day. If you want to help them then adopt one. Please read the facts on the situation before jumping on the band wagon with a special interest group that lines their pockets with your donations.

Dear Viva:
Anything will help. Dave Cattoor was contracted by BLM to round up these set of horses AGAIN. After he pleaded guilty to and was federally indictedby federal grand jury and he pleaded GUIKTY to ILEEGALLY hunting aiding and abetting in 1992. He then rounded up the protected mustangs put them in trucks and drove to slaughter house in TEXAS.
So please don't tell me to get my facts straight I have for sometime now and If you get your facts straight they will be put to sleep if not adopted. Have you adopted any of these horses that we are talking about? So why is it ok that this creep is allowed to AGAIN be a part of this round up. How do you call that LOVE???There is enough land grass for them. Ginger Kathrens has been following this herd since is was just Cloud as a foal. And she knows better than yourself what is good and what is not. And if this was the best thing for them then why is she saying there not being handled with care. Are you there on this land to see and care for first hand with your own eyes just because they say there fed 3x's a day is BS. And their all seperated and released according to AGE!!! They are keeping the ages up to 10 which is clouds age to be adopted and His heard is targeted. I'm sorry you feel so priveleged to attack me. I have good intentions and will continue to do what I can instead of doing nothing. There is over 38,000 acres and the heard is up to 190 not including foals. Then why haven't they released Cloud? And It's not my petition it's The Cloud Foundation that asked for signitures and to pass it around to have friends sign and anyone . You are the one in a million that I have talked to that feels this way. What exactly have you done more than anybody else for these horses?????????????????? And lining pockets with donations is what any rescue asks for because people put in the time and it's done for the horses. Any charity asks it's your choice to donate or not.

Please read the facts here:
http://www.blm.gov/mt/st/en/fo/billi...pryorherd.html

By the way... What makes Cloud any more special than any other mustang that has proven himself as a stallion? But really, lets be honest, even he does get rounded up, the BLM will turn him back out. It wouldn't be worth it to keep him.

www.thecloudfoundation.org read it.

[Debbie z.]

Originally Posted by XxLiveToRidexX

The BLM will turn Cloud back out because of his coloring.

Not a fact. They mentioned his color comparing him to his offspring. They are targeting him and his heard for adoption. They are going by age too.

[XxLiveToRidexX]

Originally Posted by Debbie z.

Not a fact. They mentioned his color comparing him to his offspring. They are targeting him and his heard for adoption. They are going by age too.

Oh....hmm, thats kinda sad.

[VivaLasVegas]

First off. The BLM is not putting these horses down (you would know that if your facts were straight). It was discussed last year as a possible option, but they decided against it. Have I adopted these horses? Yes, and I will be adopting even more in the future. Have you? There is not enough land for them. Have you seen the overgrazed areas on the PMWHR? Horses will not stay where there is no food. These horses have been leaving the range. And as for Kathrens knowing more than me - you do not know me or her personally so do not judge that. The horses are not fed on the range - period I don't know where that came from. But the horses are fed in holding, believe me on that (I have fed horses in pens myself durring adoptions). As I said about Cloud being "targeted" What makes him so special other than you've seen him on TV? There isn't any prove that he was even captured! I know the petition is from The Cloud Foundation - thats why I want nothing to do with it. As for what have I done to help these horses? I have at least adopted. I have devoted my time to volunteer at adoptions to get them homes (every adoption in the north east) I support them and help get information out there. And I devote my time, money, heart to helping these horses every day. Thats what I have done. And I am sick of people sitting around moaning and not doing anything. As for linig pockets, Kathrens legally has to show you where it goes - but she refuses - sorry I don't trust that one.

I'm not personally attacking you in any way. Just trying to get correrct info out there.

And no - They will not keep Cloud - It would be to much of a nightmare for them to do so.

[Lyrical Lass]

Originally Posted by VivaLasVegas

......
I'm not personally attacking you in any way. Just trying to get correrct info out there.

No offense intended VivaLasVegas .... but what makes Your particular information "correct" ... and everyone else's Incorrect??
~ Lyrical Lass

[VivaLasVegas]

Originally Posted by Lyrical Lass

No offense intended VivaLasVegas .... but what makes Your particular information "correct" ... and everyone else's Incorrect??
~ Lyrical Lass

I work side by side with the BLM. I get my information straight from the source. And I physically see it for myself.

[Lyrical Lass]

Originally Posted by VivaLasVegas

I work side by side with the BLM. I get my information straight from the source. And I physically see it for myself.

And you think BLM are the only ones who "really" know what's going on???
And that ALL the others ... are just on a "band wagon??
People like Carol Walker
http://wildhoofbeats.blogspot.com/20...mountains.html

...hmmmmmm ... BLM ... government ... ulterior motives, underhanded objectives, innocents moved to make room for something that will Pay???
Ohhhh Yeah, we know We Can Take what THEY say to the Bank!!!

... lol .. erm, sorry ... being a 1st Nation member (Native American) forgive me if I just can't follow your path on that one
~ Lyrical Lass