Preggers? I think so... (Nightmare)

BeyondTheRumors · 01-30-2008, 05:40 PM

If you can afford it, you could buy round peen pannels and set that up in the pasture in a corner, and have somebody rope her and get her in that.

QHGirl · 01-31-2008, 10:40 AM

If she is indeed pregnate you need to start planning, getting the correct conditions set up for a mare and foal, the correct food and most important vet care.

If your current situation doesn't allow you to do so, you need to make arrangements going forward to move her to an acceptable place.

IN my eyes... where she was isn't the greatest but "saving her" like you guys did really isn't helping her out either... you need to take it a step further...

Dawn · 02-01-2008, 07:37 AM

Is she even being fed? (Other than hay.) I have to agree with the above post. Her current conditions don't seem to be much better than what her previous ones likely were. I know it's not your horse, but still.

In 4 months time, unless she has a medical issue, she's had plenty of time to gain more weight than she has (the 'weight gain' that most people are seeing is in fact because she now has a winter coat). And if she does have a medical issue, well then he's had more than enough time to have that addressed as well.

When you 'rescue' a horse, it's for the purpose of improving it's position in life, not leaving it the same.

And again, I know it's not your horse. But once again, you're in a prime position to educate people.

Equine747 · 02-01-2008, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dawn

Is she even being fed? (Other than hay.) I have to agree with the above post. Her current conditions don't seem to be much better than what her previous ones likely were. I know it's not your horse, but still.

In 4 months time, unless she has a medical issue, she's had plenty of time to gain more weight than she has (the 'weight gain' that most people are seeing is in fact because she now has a winter coat). And if she does have a medical issue, well then he's had more than enough time to have that addressed as well.

When you 'rescue' a horse, it's for the purpose of improving it's position in life, not leaving it the same.

And again, I know it's not your horse. But once again, you're in a prime position to educate people.

I agree 100% with this!
She should have gained a lot more weight then she has.
Here is a before and after photo of the 22 year old mare I rescued - The photos where taken just 4 months apart!

She does not even look like the same horse after only 4 months of gaining all this weight! She was being fed 30 LBS of good green hay every day with 6 LBS of equine senior - also had a 24/7 supply salt block
-Danielle-

prairienights · 02-01-2008, 08:38 AM

If she's pregnant, she should have free choice roughage (as much quality hay or grass as she wants whenever she wants). She should get as much energy as she can to support the foal, herself, and bring her condition up. Regular feeds may have energy in carbs, but she'll need more than that, I suggest a fatty oil. Also, pregnant mares *really* really need a lot of protein. Protein provides the building blocks, and that foal definitely needs it.

I do see some improvement in her condition, and I do respect your uncle for wanting to give her a better home. However, (and I'm not sure if people are just assuming or if you said it somewhere) if she is not on any kind of feed, she's really not in too much of an improved situation. Also, if she's been on that green grass for four months and you haven't seen much improvement, I'd be taking a fecal test in to see what parasites she has and getting her teeth checked. You also really need to figure out if she's pregnant or not; personally, I think she is. That will really determine how you care for her over the next few months.

Also, I hate to sound harsh, I know this isn't your horse so I suppose I'm "speaking" to your uncle as she is his responsibility...you can't really use the excuse of being an uncatchable horse for this situation, especially if she's pregnant. She needs proper care, and to get that care she will need to be caught/herded/whatever. Especially if she's going to foal in a few months, you'll need a safe place. Preferably with shelter and certainly no barbed wire. If your uncle is not able to provide this for her, he needs to find somebody who is able to.

summersmyhorse · 02-01-2008, 08:46 AM

Very good post. I just found this thread & there's a lot of good advice on here. I have a question, not related to her weight, etc. Is this horse possibly blind--in one eye or both? Only asking because in several of the pictures her eye looks "white"--could just be the lighting but as it doesn't seem to be sunny out, I don't think it's a reflection. Just wondering, because this could certainly make her a lot more skittish; if she cannot see, or has poor vision.

Vengeance · 02-01-2008, 03:15 PM

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Is this horse possibly blind--in one eye or both?

No, she's not blind. What you're seeing could be my camera's flash... it stays on flash and is very bright... and it often causes the horses eyes to mess up some.

moondust · 02-01-2008, 03:52 PM

She sure does look pregnant to me! Hopefully that's not just a terrible case of worm belly. I doubt it, she looks bred!

Tymacs Girl · 02-01-2008, 09:56 PM

Have you had a vet check this horse out yet?

accphotography · 02-01-2008, 10:54 PM

Hard to do if she can't catch her. Unless they dart gun her... lol.

ACC

01-31-2008, 10:40 AM	#42
QHGirl Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 6,914 Images: 249	If she is indeed pregnate you need to start planning, getting the correct conditions set up for a mare and foal, the correct food and most important vet care. If your current situation doesn't allow you to do so, you need to make arrangements going forward to move her to an acceptable place. IN my eyes... where she was isn't the greatest but "saving her" like you guys did really isn't helping her out either... you need to take it a step further... __________________ I must not forget to thank the difficult horses, who made my life miserable, but who were better teachers than the well-behaved school horses who raised no problems. -Alois Podhaisky

02-01-2008, 08:38 AM	#45
prairienights Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,624 Images: 337 Blog Entries: 1	If she's pregnant, she should have free choice roughage (as much quality hay or grass as she wants whenever she wants). She should get as much energy as she can to support the foal, herself, and bring her condition up. Regular feeds may have energy in carbs, but she'll need more than that, I suggest a fatty oil. Also, pregnant mares really really need a lot of protein. Protein provides the building blocks, and that foal definitely needs it. I do see some improvement in her condition, and I do respect your uncle for wanting to give her a better home. However, (and I'm not sure if people are just assuming or if you said it somewhere) if she is not on any kind of feed, she's really not in too much of an improved situation. Also, if she's been on that green grass for four months and you haven't seen much improvement, I'd be taking a fecal test in to see what parasites she has and getting her teeth checked. You also really need to figure out if she's pregnant or not; personally, I think she is. That will really determine how you care for her over the next few months. Also, I hate to sound harsh, I know this isn't your horse so I suppose I'm "speaking" to your uncle as she is his responsibility...you can't really use the excuse of being an uncatchable horse for this situation, especially if she's pregnant. She needs proper care, and to get that care she will need to be caught/herded/whatever. Especially if she's going to foal in a few months, you'll need a safe place. Preferably with shelter and certainly no barbed wire. If your uncle is not able to provide this for her, he needs to find somebody who is able to. __________________ ___() () _ ~/( o o) _~/ _ __\\ _~/ __ _ (,,)

02-01-2008, 03:52 PM	#48
moondust Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 2,222 Images: 179	She sure does look pregnant to me! Hopefully that's not just a terrible case of worm belly. I doubt it, she looks bred! __________________ Proud president of the saddle-less club To Moondust: "We fit together like a hand in glove, and when I'm with you I feel nothing but love!" Thanks ureventer for my beautiful avatar.

02-01-2008, 09:56 PM	#49
Tymacs Girl Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Air Force Bases Posts: 2,932 Images: 18	Have you had a vet check this horse out yet? __________________ Romance-KWPN Dutch WB Ribbon Of Hope's Auntie The proud wife of a SSgt in the USAF. Live Another Day, Learn Another Lesson.

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01-30-2008, 05:40 PM	#41
BeyondTheRumors Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: MI Posts: 530 Images: 96	If you can afford it, you could buy round peen pannels and set that up in the pasture in a corner, and have somebody rope her and get her in that.

02-01-2008, 07:37 AM	#43
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 29,584 Images: 1283	Is she even being fed? (Other than hay.) I have to agree with the above post. Her current conditions don't seem to be much better than what her previous ones likely were. I know it's not your horse, but still. In 4 months time, unless she has a medical issue, she's had plenty of time to gain more weight than she has (the 'weight gain' that most people are seeing is in fact because she now has a winter coat). And if she does have a medical issue, well then he's had more than enough time to have that addressed as well. When you 'rescue' a horse, it's for the purpose of improving it's position in life, not leaving it the same. And again, I know it's not your horse. But once again, you're in a prime position to educate people.

02-01-2008, 08:46 AM	#46
summersmyhorse Full Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 242 Images: 27	Very good post. I just found this thread & there's a lot of good advice on here. I have a question, not related to her weight, etc. Is this horse possibly blind--in one eye or both? Only asking because in several of the pictures her eye looks "white"--could just be the lighting but as it doesn't seem to be sunny out, I don't think it's a reflection. Just wondering, because this could certainly make her a lot more skittish; if she cannot see, or has poor vision.

02-01-2008, 10:54 PM	#50
accphotography Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 3,717	Hard to do if she can't catch her. Unless they dart gun her... lol. ACC