[littlecelticpony]

i don't think nocty was running WBs into the ground, she just doesn't care for them. big deal. i mean, personally, i do not care for QH's. so? lots of people don't like TBs and I own one, but that doesn't bother me lol.

[Sandra-A1]

Sandra I already cleared that up numerous times, don't worry about it

Sorry, but nothing was ever really cleared up just the thread closed because you asked the moderator to close it for you.
I still am waiting on the correct registration names of your horses so I can look them up with the IALHA.
Also how can your brother not have a horse yet when your parents are supposed to breed Andalusians?
Honestly I still wonder how you have time for another horse will all you have to do:

Hello! I'm getting my first horse finally! His name is Nocturno and he's a beautiful dark brown Andalusian stallion. He's only 2 years old, but the problem is he's about 12.000 EUROs (13k in US money) and he's from Spain so I can't go and check him out. The owner gave me a 14 day guarentee that if he wasn't sound I could return. him. I have a couple pictures if anyone wants to see them.

But you never posted any pictures? WHY?

Its not rude to read my profile. I was reconsidering the stallion as well but this isn't the first time I saw/trained/rode a stallion. My family are horse people. My father trains them and my mother breeds them. I have trained colts and stallions before, But I do VERY much appericate your concern Maybe I should reconsider buying him but I don't want a mare. Just plain bad expirence there. Maybe I would be better off with a slightly older horse but I really don't want to go above 6 years...

The browns are more expensive but I don't really care about color or paying 800$ more for him. You're right my family are horse people but its MY first horse. The first horse that I will compete and actually own. I've trained colts about 5 months to a yaer and stallions 2 to 5 years.

I confuse a lot of people with my definition of 'mine'. Thanks! I live about 40 miles north west of Chicago in Mt. prospect, a godforsaken little town that doesn't allow horses oh well XD

I live near Schaumburg, IL.

I'm having real trouble deciding. I'm all ready bilingual (English and Polish) But I have an opportunity to take French, Spanish, Italian or German in high school. The last two are erm... well not in consideration. They both sound really wierd O_O

I want to take Spanish because I go to Spain a lot (Andalusians! Squee!) and it would help to know whta the people ar esaying.

But I want to learn French because there's a Equestrian Academy I might be attending in Paris, so that would be useful too.

Here a brief list:

Nocturno (Black, stallion)
16. 2 hh , He has Evento somewhere in his lines. I just can't find the papers right this moment Does dressage and a little jumping

Eternity Knight (Gray, stallion)
15.4 hh, Nothing really significant but he's the half brother to Nocturno, does reining and dressage

Only Forever (Cremello, mare)
16 hh, Daughter of Saphiro, she does jumping (Amazingly enough) and dressage

Chasing the Sunrise or Sunni (Buckskin, mare)
15.6 hh Nothing special in her lineage except for Revoltoso. She's from Spain and does high school dressage

Graceful Eternity (Gray, mare)
15 hh? Great-granddaughter of Maltesa II. Nothing right now, she's in training

Celtic Rose (Gray, mare)
16.4 hh, Realted to Ungido IV. Training for eventing but mostly dressage

I have to go for now, but I'll get you the rest of the crew a little later.

and lets see what else....you also have a Facon you train ....a scholorship to college....exercise Polo Ponies along with....

Great Idea Horse Crazy! As a staement from me who manages 15 horses and 70 acres by herself, It's gonna be a lot of work. But totally rewarding. I don't board horses and this is a breeding facility, but I don't think that it's too far off. Actually I disagree with the electric wire fencing. It breaks like crazy and looks really cheap, so I had nice looking permant PVC fencing put up. Added to the property value and everything ^^ Well if you need some more adive I'm happy to give it!

I am probably missing more but a quick search turned up this little bit above.
So as you can see I still have my questions and a LOT of doubts.

Since you have already proven yourself an articulate young lady I cannot understand why you have such a hard time when it comes to clearing up this confusion about your family's Andalusian breeding business.

You, or your family, are supposedly willing to spend THOUSANDS of dollars on horses and you, yet you are not able to even purchase a inexpensive disposable camera to make photos of all you have said you have? Like a large indoor ring you need to heat this winter...you said it was built by Cover-All. wink
Also no one in the USA Andalusian world has heard of your family's Andalusian business in Illinois.
I still am curious as to why that is?
I have LOTS of questions to go along with my doubts....so are you now willing to clear things up? It can be done quickly and easily....as I have told you before I do know people in the Andalusian Industry here in the USA, I live only a few minutes drive from the IALHA Main office, I also know people who can and are willing to check the Andalusian Stud books in several other countries for your families horses too!

I am truly sorry but I can't really help it...and am not trying to start any sort of fight or argument....I am still very confused and would like to clear things up ASAP.

<small>[ May 16, 2004, 02:26 PM: Message edited by: Sandra-A1 ]</small>

[Dancinglite]

Nocturno

I can understand regarding WB snobs, but not everyone that has a WB is a snob. You can be turned off by them (snobs--or rather purists) especialy if you had read my post in the Off Course section re taking aspirn and about what one BB is saying(not nicely)about my stallion. It took them 96 posts on another BB to come to the conclusion that I am a shady,dishonest and misleading not nice person (actually they did not like me from before even though they never met me). Some posters on this thread responded positively and I thank them for their replies.

I would hope that you certainly don't put me in the catagory that most of the posters on that other BB are in as I would certainly be hurt.

In the long run, if you want to get to the upper levels you will simply need a horse that was bred for it. I want you to realize that this is coming from a dressage rider/trainer that took a $250.00 arab/quarterhorse,trained him by myself to Grand Prix and competed against these WBs. It was not rocket science that made me realize that my next horse would have to be WB or WB/cross.

There are may WB/crosses that become VERY suitable without having to got into a full WB. Many of the WB/TB or WB/anglo arab (my guy) or WB/Trak crosses can carry the best of both sides and take you a LONG way.

[spyro1]

Ok, my skepticism is coming out too sandra. I am curious as to the answers as well as you. As for noc's comment on freisans in the polo fields, wrong answer!! Sorry, I live 10 minutes from Palm Beach Polo & Country Club, I have been going over there for 20 some odd years, if you paraded onto their fields riding a freisan, you would be the laughing stock of the polo community. It would be like entering the dressage arena on a Paso. eek!
I have never seen you post on any dressage topics, so don't know the true extent of your dressage knowledge. But, if you want to play the game, you need the proper equipment!!

[hossluva]

so your saying im a snobby 13yr old just cuz i have a wb? bawling bawling bawling im with cj!

[Nocturno]

Sandra Sandra Sandra. I cleared it up to numerous people who have had the sense and politeness to ASK me in a PM. Bringing it up in EVERY thread I start is redundant and rude.

[littlecelticpony]

Also no one in the USA Andalusian world has heard of your family's Andalusian business in Illinois.

yeesh i need to mind my p's and q's or someone's gonna check up on me hahahahaha.

[shell]

I think if you have $18,000 to spend on a horse, you could do better than that gelding. I could use $18,000!!

[Nocturno]

Really? Hm. Well I guess this is pretty settled. I should keep on looking

[Sandra-A1]

I have to disagree...pleasantly thought..

I have not brought it up in every thread you have started.
Also I have not received any PM from you and it has to be obvious that I am MOST interested in hearing your explanations! So why did I not receive any PM from you as well? I have made it well known that I was interested and would love to learn more about your horses and business.

I cannot see what the problem is with addressing my questions and curiosity here on the open forum so that they would be cleared up once and for all.
I still have numerous questions and cannot understand what the problem you have with them being answered....here on the forum.

I do find it interesting that someone who is busy running their family's large Andalusian farm and breeding business has the time to also work excising polo ponies.

I find it interesting that your Father is the trainer for your family business yet you have only mentioned this once and never again.

I find it interesting that you say you live in a community that does not allow horses yet in another thread you mention how a racetrack is so near to you.

You say you are going to buy and import a brown Andalusian Stallion that ends up being a black and you can go to all the expense, time and trouble to import him and still try him out and return him back to Spain if he does not work out.

You say you are going to get a stallion from Spain and then in no time you have him...very confusing!

You say your importing horses, then say it's other people who are importing and your buying from them and yet there is no record of it.

Your family keeps all of your horse's registration papers at the barn on the farm, then you say no they are stored in a warehouse....???

You say you compete and then you say you don't.

How did someone your age and whose family obviously has unlimited financial resources get awarded a college scholarship, yet you are considering tossing it out to go to the Academy of Equestrian Arts or to...oops sorry... I forgot where else you mentioned you wanted to go after High School.

How can your brother not have a horse when your family has so many?

Why is it that there are none for sale or the farm being advertised at all anywhere? I have told you before that I am interested and would love to see what they have available for sale. I would even consider buying a foal in utero.

Why is it that no one has even heard of your business...and I am calling it YOUR business because you did say you were the Manager?

I find it interesting that someone whose family has and manages such a facility with so many rare and valuable horses does not want to talk about it and yet continues to seek horses and equine activities that now have nothing to do with their family business of which they are the manager.

I apologize if my curiosity is getting the best of me and I only seek the answers which will help me further understand you. I will say that I have asked you as nicely as possible and have tried my best to not come across as argumentative. If I have done so let me again apologize and say that I seek only answers and understanding not an argument or fight.

You offered at one time to send me the rest of the names of your families horses and also provide their registered names so I could verify them and solve all of this quickly? I cannot understand what is the problem with providing the names they are registered under.
After all, you are the one who said you had so many of these horses and naturally I am interested in them. I am only repeating what you have said here on the open forum and do not understand what the problem is with my trying to clear up my confusion about your postings here in the open as well.
Are you now willing to provide the answers?