[Spotted Mustang]

These are some Wilbur-Cruce Horses. I was just wondering what pattern(s) they looked to have. I understand that without testing one cannot be absolutely certain, but nonetheless, I am curious as to what patterns they look to have.

Example 1:


Example 2:


Example 3:


Example 4:

[3WishesDun]

I see splash, frame, and sabino.

[3WishesDun]

Possibly rabicano if the last one has a skunk tail. (can't see his butt)

[JBandRio]

Originally Posted by Spotted Mustang

These are some Wilbur-Cruce Horses. I was just wondering what pattern(s) they looked to have. I understand that without testing one cannot be absolutely certain, but nonetheless, I am curious as to what patterns they look to have.

Example 1:

Splash and likely Frame, maybe Sabino

Example 2:

Splash and Frame

Example 3:

Splash and Frame

Example 4:

Sabino, maybe Splash, very likely Rabicano

[accphotography]

I see frame, splash and sabino on each. Possibly rabicano (or just sabino roaning) on the last.

ACC

[Spotted Mustang]

How do you tell the difference between Frame, Splash, and Sabino?

Can you give me the visual signs you are seeing that make you assume Splash, Frame, and/or Sabino for each of the horses?

This is not a trick question or anything of course. These horses are mostly semi-feral and never been tested. I am just trying to develop an eye to tell the difference between the various white patterns.

Thank you all for the help.

[JBandRio]

Originally Posted by Spotted Mustang

How do you tell the difference between Frame, Splash, and Sabino?

Can you give me the visual signs you are seeing that make you assume Splash, Frame, and/or Sabino for each of the horses?

White on the legs that are higher towards the middle of the body - fronts of hinds, backs of fronts - is a reasonable indicator of Sabino. The very loud face white, especially as it makes a very distinct line above the eyes, is very indicative of Splash. Leg white that is horizontal is pretty Splash as well. White that is splattered in the middle of the body - barrel, butt, neck - is pretty Frame-like.

There are all sorts of variations that could make these more or less obvious, but in a VERY small nutshell, those are things that we're seeing here.

[accphotography]

This site can help you:
http://equinecolor.com/color.html

ACC

[Spotted Mustang]

Reading over the site, this is what I am getting:

Frame Overo - the white is "framed" by the darker color, and does not put white on the legs or white across the back. Blue eyes and having a "mustache" on the lip is common.

Splashed White - Blue eyes are common. Facial markings tend to be "bottom-heavy". The lines between the white and the base color tend to be very clear and blunt. They tend to look "dipped" in white, it looks as if the white "splashes" up from below.

Sabino - Does not seem to cause blue eyes very often. Tend to have the white wrap around the chin. The markings on the legs tend to be "pointy" and the edges roany/lacy. Patches of disconnected white on the legs is not uncommon. Sabino can also cause roaning. Belly spots and "splatters" are common with this pattern, but lack the crisp edges of Splashed White in general.

[JBandRio]

Originally Posted by Spotted Mustang

Reading over the site, this is what I am getting:

Frame Overo - the white is "framed" by the darker color, and does not put white on the legs or white across the back. Blue eyes and having a "mustache" on the lip is common.

The bolded part is what I have some trouble with. Blue eyes IME is not common with Frames. It seems to be a very typical Splash trait. And, when breeding Paints, or any breed where multiple patterns are present, such as minis and mustangs (Spanish Mustangs especially), Splash and Frame are very often seen together. So, seeing the mustache (which ACC and I have already proven is not a Frame trait, or at least not Frame-only) and blue eyes is not uncommon in a horse who is visibly exhibiting the Frame pattern.