Patience with farriers?

DoWeDance · 07-03-2006, 10:12 AM

Let's say your horse is misbehaving for the farrier (which would never actually happen because we all have perfect horses here at HGS

). It is not a pain issue - the horse is just being an idiot. She refuses to hold her back leg up and even kicks at the farrier after jerking it away from him. He has blood running down his arm and may have injured his shoulder. Sweat is pouring off of him, and he has been patient for the last ten minutes of this. But, he only has so much patience, and eventually, hauls of and smacks the **** out of her rump a few times. Would you have this farrier out again if this was the first time you had used him? What if he was patient with all of your other horses except this one? This is just a question to see how patient you all are with farriers... just curious...

probarrelracer · 07-03-2006, 10:17 AM

I would probably smacked her a couple of times myself after the first sign of misbehavior. The farrier is not there to fight horses, and he should not have to put up with that kind of behavior. Would I call him back? If he does a good job, then absolutely!! Would I apologize profusely for my failure to instill manners in my horse? Definately!!

Top Dun · 07-03-2006, 10:19 AM

Personally I'd be spending my moment on a trainer or a vet to determine if the mare is sore and or needs retraining before asking a farrier to look at her again.
I recently had a farrier out here and he had just been in a car wreck the night before plus his horse had run his leg into a post at a roping also that same day. He could not physically hold the horses legs up when the tried to pull away even just to shake off a fly. My horses were not perfect and he never hit a single one. But mine didn't try and kick his head off either. I'd say it would totally have to depend on the situation. If it were my fault as in the horse were not trained properly or an injury that I didn't know about then I'd probably call the guy back.

TravelingGirl · 07-03-2006, 01:14 PM

My farrier would have put her on a lunge line and made her move, disengaged her hind quarters, made her lead nicely and back, and then would have started working on her again once she was paying attention (he's a big Clinton Anderson fan).

DoWeDance · 07-03-2006, 02:05 PM

hmmm...interesting idea. I have heard of farriers lungeing before.

Pennymercantile · 07-03-2006, 02:11 PM

Mine gave one of my horses not ace but another drug that lasted 45 minutes because he was fighting having his back legs...It was his first trim and I had worked w/his front feet but not his back.

I was upset at first then realized that this guy is not payed enough to injure himself w/an animal that large.

horsegurl146 · 07-03-2006, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by probarrelracer

I would probably smacked her a couple of times myself after the first sign of misbehavior. The farrier is not there to fight horses, and he should not have to put up with that kind of behavior. Would I call him back? If he does a good job, then absolutely!! Would I apologize profusely for my failure to instill manners in my horse? Definately!!

Well said! I agree completely! I think he was within his right for smacking her butt. However, I once had a farrier who smacked my horse in the belly with a rasp

for putting her foot down and slight kicking as she was taking her hoof out of his grasp. After that she literally tried to attack him.

I think that was uncalled for and he was never called back again, even though he'd been my farrier for over a year.

Shotgun93 · 07-03-2006, 08:30 PM

I would have intervened before the horse got hit, worked the horse and then tried again. Honestly though, sometimes a horse needs a smack on the rump, especially after the ferrier has been patient for ten minutes.

ThisIsMe · 07-03-2006, 08:30 PM

My horse misbheaves, the farrier has every right to correct it.

I'm not paying my farrier to train my horse to stand quietly, pick its feet up to be shod/trimmed. That's my job.

Wicket1 · 07-03-2006, 10:38 PM

When my farrier was trying to trim my Welshie's hooves she kept trying to kick out at him. so I got the dressage whip and wacked her when she kicked out, becuase she was being naughty. After that she stood quietly for the farrier.

He was very shocked when I told him I was going to wack her if she kicked out, but it worked.

This may not work with other horses, but I knew that Pebbles was misbehaving.

07-03-2006, 10:12 AM	#1
DoWeDance Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,633 Images: 66	Patience with farriers? Let's say your horse is misbehaving for the farrier (which would never actually happen because we all have perfect horses here at HGS ). It is not a pain issue - the horse is just being an idiot. She refuses to hold her back leg up and even kicks at the farrier after jerking it away from him. He has blood running down his arm and may have injured his shoulder. Sweat is pouring off of him, and he has been patient for the last ten minutes of this. But, he only has so much patience, and eventually, hauls of and smacks the **** out of her rump a few times. Would you have this farrier out again if this was the first time you had used him? What if he was patient with all of your other horses except this one? This is just a question to see how patient you all are with farriers... just curious...

07-03-2006, 10:19 AM	#3
Top Dun Senior Member+ Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,659 Images: 178 Blog Entries: 1	Personally I'd be spending my moment on a trainer or a vet to determine if the mare is sore and or needs retraining before asking a farrier to look at her again. I recently had a farrier out here and he had just been in a car wreck the night before plus his horse had run his leg into a post at a roping also that same day. He could not physically hold the horses legs up when the tried to pull away even just to shake off a fly. My horses were not perfect and he never hit a single one. But mine didn't try and kick his head off either. I'd say it would totally have to depend on the situation. If it were my fault as in the horse were not trained properly or an injury that I didn't know about then I'd probably call the guy back. __________________ Real ID Act is not going to help create a NATIONAL ID, instead it is helping to create an INTERNATIONAL Biometric ID Card. The world is being enrolled into a single global biometric ID system through - passports, driver's license Social Security card, etc.

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Shotgun93 Senior Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Southwest SD Posts: 13,366 Images: 124	I would have intervened before the horse got hit, worked the horse and then tried again. Honestly though, sometimes a horse needs a smack on the rump, especially after the ferrier has been patient for ten minutes. __________________ In the quiet light of the stable, you hear a muffled snort, the stamp of a hoof, a friendly nicker. Gentle eyes inquire, "How was your day old friend?" and suddenly, all your troubles fade away. -Author Unknown

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07-03-2006, 10:17 AM	#2
probarrelracer Senior Member+ Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,267 Images: 603	I would probably smacked her a couple of times myself after the first sign of misbehavior. The farrier is not there to fight horses, and he should not have to put up with that kind of behavior. Would I call him back? If he does a good job, then absolutely!! Would I apologize profusely for my failure to instill manners in my horse? Definately!!

07-03-2006, 01:14 PM	#4
TravelingGirl Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 2,193 Images: 240	My farrier would have put her on a lunge line and made her move, disengaged her hind quarters, made her lead nicely and back, and then would have started working on her again once she was paying attention (he's a big Clinton Anderson fan).

07-03-2006, 02:05 PM	#5
DoWeDance Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,633 Images: 66	hmmm...interesting idea. I have heard of farriers lungeing before.

07-03-2006, 02:11 PM	#6
Pennymercantile Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,090 Images: 74	Mine gave one of my horses not ace but another drug that lasted 45 minutes because he was fighting having his back legs...It was his first trim and I had worked w/his front feet but not his back. I was upset at first then realized that this guy is not payed enough to injure himself w/an animal that large.

07-03-2006, 08:30 PM	#9
ThisIsMe Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 2,456 Images: 118	My horse misbheaves, the farrier has every right to correct it. I'm not paying my farrier to train my horse to stand quietly, pick its feet up to be shod/trimmed. That's my job.

07-03-2006, 10:38 PM	#10
Wicket1 Full Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 122	When my farrier was trying to trim my Welshie's hooves she kept trying to kick out at him. so I got the dressage whip and wacked her when she kicked out, becuase she was being naughty. After that she stood quietly for the farrier. He was very shocked when I told him I was going to wack her if she kicked out, but it worked. This may not work with other horses, but I knew that Pebbles was misbehaving.