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Old 10-09-2005, 03:53 PM   #1
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Palomino +

Probably a silly question as cremello is a dilution of the palomino gene - but if I bred a cremello with a palomino, what would I get?

If a palomino has been bred to a bay and still produces palomino - she's probably a homozygous then, correct?



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Old 10-09-2005, 04:32 PM   #2
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nm. the answer is cremello/perlino/smokey creme (?) etc.

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I would say u would get a BuckSkin!
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Old 10-09-2005, 05:05 PM   #4
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palomino + bay will get you a buckskin

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Cremello is a sorrel with 2 creme genes or a plaomino with 1 extra creme gene. Palomino is not a gene...its a sorrel with a creme gene. So breeding a cremello to a palomino you will at the very least get a single diluted foal, because the cremello will ALWAYS throw 1 creme gene. So you really just have a 50% chance of it being a cremello and a 50% chance of it being a palomino.

And if I am correct a bay and palomino you can get buckskin, palomino, and bay. And I think I seen/read somewhere smokey black, sorrel, and black were also possibilties.

..."she's probably a homozygous then, correct? " Homozygous what?

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Old 10-09-2005, 05:36 PM   #6
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pure palomino as opposed to half palomino genetics wise

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Old 10-09-2005, 06:19 PM   #7
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half palomino? no such thing
lets start at sorrel/chestnut, is a horse with 2 red genes which means it is homozygous for the red gene, a palomino is a red based horse that is homozygous for the red gene and heterozygous for the cream gene, a cremello is a red based horse that is both homozygous for the red and the cream gene.
For a palomino to produce a nother palomino from a bay, the bay would have to be heterozygous for the black gene, which then means it carries one red gene and one black gene.
Breeding a palomino to a cremello you can only get palomino or cremello, no other color could happen.
http://www.doubledilute.com/color-chart.htm
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Old 10-09-2005, 06:28 PM   #8
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no no, GENETICS wise

basic genetics calls for 2 genes representing each expression, so if you have two of the same gene type working together that would be Homozygous, where as if you had two different genes working together that would be Heterozygous.

it's alot more complicated then taht, but here is a simpler explination:

http://www.elderberrystables.com/Color_CreamGene.html

That's what I ment by "genetics wise"

Thanks for the palomino chart - that's awesome!!

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Palomino to cremello gives you 50% chance of palomino and 50% chance of cremello.

No other genetic possibility exists
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Hun, I am talking genetics, I know the person who runs the site you posted, it is not more complicated than that. She also bases her knowledge off of the site I posted.

A horse can be homozygous and heterozygous for more than one gene.
Palomino, buckskin, smokey black are all heterozygous for the cream gene,
Perlino, cremello, and smokey cream are all homozygous for the cream gene.

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no no, GENETICS wise

basic genetics calls for 2 genes representing each expression, so if you have two of the same gene type working together that would be Homozygous, where as if you had two different genes working together that would be Heterozygous.

it's alot more complicated then taht, but here is a simpler explination:

http://www.elderberrystables.com/Color_CreamGene.html

That's what I ment by "genetics wise"

Thanks for the palomino chart - that's awesome!!

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