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So I'm sure that some of you have dogs that are strickly outside dogs. I've ...
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    Outside dogs?

    So I'm sure that some of you have dogs that are strickly outside dogs. I've personally never been a fan of keeping a dog outside, mostly because the only one's that I know that keep their dog outside are usually tied to a tree or a run and done nothing with.

    But I'm at a dead end road with my blue heeler/pit mix Ariat. Right now, she is outside during the day and comes inside at night. We live in a small trailer and there is barely enough room for us to walk down the hallway as it is, without her barreling threw the house. She has no respect for personal space, she's got a bad habit of jumping (She's not as bad as she use to be, but she still will knock you down if you aren't prepaired, and its all out of excitement. And if you arn't watching her she will find anything and everything to chew on (including doors, she's already chewed the back pourch all to he.ck). When she is in the house she is usually crated because theres just not enough space for her to get that energy out without knocking something over.

    SO has been saying that we need to start keeping her outside, and I've been fighting him on it because I just dont want her tied to a tree and forgotten, and I don't want her running lose because we live close to a main road and the poor thing aint car smart. We have a fenced in yard, but it attached to the back door where we let Emma (pug) outside and that's Ariats favorite place to sit/jump up on to get someone attention inside.

    So, I guess heres my question: How do you transit a dog who's use to coming in the house to stay outside?

    And before I bet bashed, I fully admit that I have lacked/failed in the training department and let her get away with alot.
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    So because you failed at raising a well mannered dog, you are going to banish her to sleep outdoors?

    Suggestions I have:

    Train her. Find what makes her click and work with her. Wear her out before she gets inside for the night. Leaving a dog outside all day will not wear them out. They need one on one interaction. Take her swimming, fetch, training, running...Make her mind work.

    When you bring her in, give her something to do. Stuff a kong with peanut butter, or give her a toy to chew on. She is a young dog and needs that type of stimulation. NOTHING she is doing is her fault AT ALL.

    Just because YOU failed does not mean she needs to suffer. If you can't full fill her needs as a dog, then you need to rehome her. She does not deserve to be unhappy. That type of dog is a family dog. They LOVE being with people and pleasing them. Why would you want to break her heart?

    Sorry if that is mean but I see this all the time and it gets really old. People need to step it up at an early age before the dog becomes a mess and gets forgotten about in the back yard.
    she like shot straight up in bed and said "Where am I?" then laid back down and said "the turkeys are attacking, get the rabbits ready!"
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    Firstly I have to say what a scary breeding. A dog breed with inherent bite traits bred to something with the jaw power of a pit bull.

    Our dogs live outside inside their fenced house yard. The big dog sleeps on the veranda but the girls mostly sleep inside. They are quite happy. But given your dogs breeding you will need to make sure that wherever you let it have a yard can not be accessed by other people. IF the cattle dog protective side comes out you would have huge problems.

    You have a dog who has working dog in its lines. It is meant to run all day, everyday. It is meant to herd things. It is meant to bite things to encourage them to move.

    You need to provide the dog with either the mental stimulation to keep it amused or the work to satisify its needs.

    I would take up dog training as a matter of importance and allow the dog a good safe yard.
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    It's not too late to train her and get the 'bad' behaviors to go away. I am assuming she is crate trained since you mentioned her being in a crate? Since there is lack of room (under stand how that goes) how about taking her for long walks? I would say with training and plenty of exercise, alot of your problems will go away in time. It sounds like most of the problems you are having from her is the simple fact she doesn't have anyway to get rid of the extra energy and you just admitted your lack with the training...no big deal, you can always fix that, it's just harder as time goes by and you will have to work harder/more to correct the bad behaviors now that they are established. As for the actual training, I have no advice for you...I am not a dog person....Ever since I lost my Pug (who was my most favorite, loved dog ever) 2 years ago, I just haven't been able to find another dog that I am able to get attached to like I did with my Pug. I stick to my cats....Cat questions I can answer, dog training questions, nope. lol Goodluck though. I had an outside dog for years, she's inside dog now b/c of her going deaf/blind....
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    I knew with getting her that she's got tought breeding (and problably shame on me for getting a high active breed). But from the moment we brought her home we socalized her with kids, cats, dogs the horses ect. She's never shown one but of aggression. The only thing that I will say is that when she's out with me roaming, she will pace up and down the fence at the horses, and has learned the lesson the hard way to not go near them with Duncan. The landlords kids will come by the fence and she will bark for a few minutes and then just sit there quitely and let them pet her. She's a really sweet sweet dog.

    I just don't know how to "work" her. I take her for walks everyday for hours at a time and it never tires her out.

    I would NEVER banish her to the backyard and not do a thing with her. I love her to death, but I need to find a happy medium here. She can't tear the house down when she's inside, and I hate to have to crated and she can't spend any time with us inside.
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    The happy medium is training.

    Basic training SIT, Lay down, roll over, stay, heel, high five, play fetch with her, hide and seek, teach her how to find things. If you don't know where to start, then take her to a trainer and learn how. Remember that a tired dog will listen better so before you work with her, take her for a run, or a serious fetch session. A flirt pole may also be of use to you. I know Gunner adores his and can't get enough of it.

    Don't let her jump on you EVER if you don't want her to jump.

    Dogs really are simple. She is still young so its up to you to turn her behavior around now so you don't encourage this monster you have created.
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    she like shot straight up in bed and said "Where am I?" then laid back down and said "the turkeys are attacking, get the rabbits ready!"
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    It's time for you to do what you should have done to begin with. Crate, train basic obedience, stimulate mind and body. Get her yummy appropriate things to chew on. My dogs love their marrow bones.
    Take a class with her.
    going for a mindless walk "might" tire her out physically, but you NEED to engage her mind as well.
    Get a frisbee, a ball.
    Your dog has got to be seriously drivey and would likely enjoy games flyball, dock diving, disk dog OR rally or agility, All would be work for both of you, but the rewards would be plentyful for both you and your dog.
    You have to do it right, which you haven't to this point. As you are finding out, high drive dogs will find things to do if you don't give them something to do that is stimulating. Doesn't have to take all day, it just needs to be done.
    I can do a few reps of nosework with my dogs, maybe takes 30ish minutes and they are exhausted. AND they love it!!

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    As has been said above..TRAIN her.

    Walks are mind numbing for most high drive dogs doesnt work..it doesnt challenge their mind. Her frustration is showing in the chewing in the house.

    Take another approach to this dog, I think you'll be surprised.
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    If she is used to coming in at night, it will be hard for all of you to get her used to staying out. She may get even more distructive and noisy!

    I agree that she needs structure probably more than exercise. Teach her some games as mentioned earlier and play with her that way rather than just walk her. How old is she? She will calm down as she matures, you just have to be patient sometimes.
    It will not hurt her to be crated. She is better off crated than allowed to tear stuff up! My little chihuahua goes in her crate every night by 9pm and doesnt' get out until 6am. She starts asking to go to bed at about 830 every evening. (Yes I have a tiny chi that sleeps in a crate and not in my bed!)
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    I personally dont see anything wrong with a dog outside 24/7 if they have the proper coat for the climate they live in with proper living conditions etc but....Excercise, discipline, affection, I think thats what Cesar Milan always says lol
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