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Old 05-25-2008, 11:23 AM   #341
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I am new here, and without sounding offensive....I can't believe (shakes head in disgust)....what I just witnessed. I have never in my life seen or read anything so overtly profound as what I just read coming from somone sounding much like Exitpoint.

Sir, I do not know why on Earth, anyone would be posessed to create a profile on a chat forum like that one, utilize a photograph of your dog as the avatar...and then go into specifics such as those there...just to mess with you and your public image. I just don't see it.

I think that your intentions are in the right place, but I also belive you to be in need of serious psychological assistance.

It is a shame that this talented stallion has all of this negativity surrounding him, and detracting from well deserved recognition of his God given talent.

(and, even if it is not true...why on earth are you in a position to even be accused of such things? I have grown up around some of the top QH barns and trainers in the country..and never, NEVER seen anyone being accused of things like this. EVER.)

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Old 05-25-2008, 11:30 AM   #342
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My thoughts..

For what it's worth....

After reading this entire thread, and doing some background snooping I have decided to respond ... so I'll try and make this short.

First of all without being judge and jury, I am only responsible for how I feel, and have come to my own conclusions after presenting myself with the evidence.

To Suzi... IMO you should move on, find another stallion to breed your mare too...if it were me, I'd step far away from these people... there are lots of nice horses to breed too... if there is a legal issue involved, hire a lawyer.

I'm rather shocked at HGS for letting this person post on this forum... I understand fully that the accusations being made are not allowed to be spelled out... we wouldnt have the freedom to do that even if this thread were moved to the adult section.

It saddens me that HGS would allow someone with this history (or supposed history) to use this forum as a platform. I get the fact that this thread is like a train wreck and people cannot look away, and I believe thats what this person wants.

As far as I can tell, he has been banned from every site I have found... whether or not the accusations are true or not (do your own research and figure it out) is reason enough for the mods to look very closely at this person, and decide if he is worth keeping around.

If he is allowed to continue to post (and IMO use HGS for his ego and entertainment) I will have to consider removing myself from this board...

If I could hose down my computer without frying it I would do it.
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Old 05-25-2008, 11:31 AM   #343
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Doug, Exitpoint is an interesting name, did you choose it? If so, would you be willing to share it's meaning or the inspiration behind it with us?
Yes, I've used the Exitpoint name since 2002. As some folks already know, I'm also a BASE jumper (though not so much in recent years, to be honest) - this is a type of parachuting, except from objects like backcountry cliffs and whatnot.

The "exitpoint," in BASE, is the place from which one jumps - i.e. the edge of a cliff. It's the place where the transition is made from standing, to flying. A friend, now deceased, suggested the name for showjumping-related work and I had to agree.

I did actually see somebody trying to put a graphic or adult content spin on the name, someplace, which is truly sad.

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Old 05-25-2008, 11:38 AM   #344
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guess Doug has nothing to say as he knows we know the truth... can I say ewwww again...
Eh? I was actually sleeping, and taking care of the horses this morning. Is that now evidence of "guilt," as well?

As you know, from the round of dozens of PMs last night, the person here who claimed to have "proof" in the form of photos of Capone engage in kinky activities, has in fact PM'd photos of a horse, to me here. The photo sent was a horse which, due to easily-visible markings for anyone who actually knows him, is clearly not Capone.

That's right - the "proof" is the wrong horse. Yes, a black horse - so they were close, but didn't quite get it right. It's actually very funny, in the specifics, but I'll spare folks here the details.

Oddly, nobody has responded to my PMs pointing out this minor problem with the story thus far.

Apart from that, I got dozens of PMs that included a truly random collection of snippets from all across the internet. As I pointed out in response to each one, they all involve things that anybody could post, linking me to anything. Some posts that "I" made were, ironically, made while I was in prison - a neat trick, that's for sure.

Now, we're back to the public smears about how there's "clear proof" - but of course, no proof offered. I've seen what's offered in PM and of course I'm qualified to point out the flaws. No doubt, it'll be passed around to others who might not know such details as "proof," which sort of closes the circle on the gossip campaign to smear Capone, his owners, and me personally.

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Old 05-25-2008, 11:45 AM   #345
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As far as I can tell, he has been banned from every site I have found... whether or not the accusations are true or not (do your own research and figure it out) is reason enough for the mods to look very closely at this person, and decide if he is worth keeping around.
Interesting. What forums have I been banned from? By my count, that list includes zero forums. So please provide reference to back up this statement.

My posts here have been so awful to you that you need to wash your eyes out? That seems a little bit of a stretch, though others can judge for themselves.

And, of course, we're back to the self-fulfilling "everyone says bad things about him, so he must be bad, so he shouldn't be able to respond to the bad things that people say about him - which of course prove's he's bad, since he never responds to the bad things people say about him." Do you even look at the logic of what you are proposing?

I've made nearly 100 posts here in the last 36 hours, answered every question offered by anybody - including anonymous posters. I've responded to over 60 private messages, again answering every question asked. Now, if I've got some big secret to hide. . . this was sure an odd way to hide it.

The fact is simple: there's no big secret. I suspect others can fairly easily figure out why, exactly, someone might be deeply interested in smearing me and Capone's long-time owners with these sorts of rumors at this point in time.

And, again, I'll point folks at the actual news about Capone's disappearance, as summarized directly from law enforcement.

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Old 05-25-2008, 11:49 AM   #346
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Sir, I do not know why on Earth, anyone would be posessed to create a profile on a chat forum like that one, utilize a photograph of your dog as the avatar...and then go into specifics such as those there...just to mess with you and your public image. I just don't see it.
I'm actually glad that doesn't make sense to you, because it shows that you don't expect people to engage in dishonest, underhanded tricks to smear someone they don't like. You'd think people have better things to do with their time, wouldn't you?

Unfortunately, there's people who do engage in stuff like that. I'd prefer not to acknowledge it, myself, but I've seen too much bad stuff for too many years to pretend otherwise at this point. Even after all that, however, I choose to emphasize that for every sleazy person who seeks only to cause misery and heartache, there's more than one good person who seeks to make the world a better place.

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Hmm. Just noticed something. I'm not claiming it's proof, but it is interesting.

DS: "Now, if I've got some big secret to hide. . . "

I've never seen anyone space out their periods like that.

Fausty: "It's a mess. . . "

Quite interesting.
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Old 05-25-2008, 12:03 PM   #348
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anyone who looks will see... its them. TOO many matches etc.. admit it doug, and find love elsewhere. Jail musta sucked for ya...Big Bubba just wasnt enough.
That's kind of ironic to bring up, actually. Prison, though far from fun, can also be used to better oneself and prepare for a better life afterwards. When I was inside, I did lots of reading and meditating. I caught up on all those equine ethology books I always wanted to read, but never had time for. I studied horticulture and landscaping, and volunteered to teach classes on accounting and entrepreneurship.

It was really an eye-opening experience. I met folks from all walks of life, of every race and color. From white supremacists to long-time Bloods - and white collar inmates from tax cases to maritime insurance fraud. I ended up making many friends, which of course is about the last thing one expects to say but it's true. All sorts of folks make a mistake in life. Some of us accept it, learn from it, get up, dust ourselves off, and go on perhaps just a bit wiser and just a bit more self-aware. Admittedly, I was in the federal system - we don't see the nasty crimes like assault and rape there, but rather almost exclusively drug crimes (nonviolent) and white collar stuff. Lots of ex-attorneys in federal lockup, which is a bit surprising.

I also ended up with several guard as friends - yes, that's not uncommon, either. We're all actually just people. I still send books back and forth with folks who helped me track down rare horse books from the prison library. Perhaps the biggest irony of all? The prosecutor who brought my federal case is also now a personal friend. How's that for life bringing unexpected connections?

Oh, wait - aren't I supposed to be hiding some dark past? Why is it, then, that nobody in prison, nobody in the prosecutor's office, nobody at the police, and no law enforcement folks - including our local animal control folks, who are friends, feel the same way? Why is it only anonymous internet folks? To me, that's a question that begs for a straight answer.

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Hmm. Just noticed something. I'm not claiming it's proof, but it is interesting.

DS: "Now, if I've got some big secret to hide. . . "

I've never seen anyone space out their periods like that.

Fausty: "It's a mess. . . "

Quite interesting.
Huh. . . that's called an "ellipsis." It's a standard grammatical usage, in English.

I'm now "guilty" of something because I use spaced periods when typing? That's a comment made in jest, surely.

What's next? I use commas. . . just like fausty!

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Yeah, and ellipses aren't generally spaced like that.

Again, did I say it was proof? No! I said it was INTERESTING because I'd never seen anyone type it like that before.
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