[Shodan VIV]

Look at this: Horseback Riding and Animal Rights: Can They Ever Be in Harmony? - Comments by: Saba Alemayehu - 25 Feb 2002: Comments and Discussions - Questions and Answers: Archive of all-creatures.org and Veg-Christian,vegetarian, vegan, cruelty free, God, Jesus.

I know this is from 2004, but are people really that ignorant?

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I don't know why people got that idea that horseback riding is cruel. Anybody have any theories or guesses?

[HJ_lilbit]

Did Jesus not technically ride on a donkey before He was born?

[Blistering Winds]

It isn't ignorance.

You can truthfully argue the "CRUELTY" of horseback riding if you take the term "Cruel" and include a BUNCH more.

Top that off with religion, and there is no argument FOR riding to be honest....

Honestly, i've been in some INTERESTING Debates over the years. And one thing I CANNOT argue against.

1. Religion (unless they are twisting the same religion I believe in...which this one is a bit)....
2. Veganism. if they are true vegans...I don't have a chance in **** at even budging...as long as they aren't being hypocritical.

[Fiera]

This just made me laugh: "violently milking them for their milk"

ummm okkkayyy...

Although, horse rides for tourists in poor countries is pretty cruel...I had this one kid offer the 6 people I was with plus the driver and kid to squish ourselfs into a little "carrige" pulled by a little emaciated pony that looked on the verge of death. And all these beautiful cremellos with their flesh sunken into their bones...yes, the people were poor and skinny too but it just wasn't right....

Then this one man who whipped his horse into a gallop around an extremely muddy turn. His horse slipped and fell and threw the guy again when he tried to get back on, so the man jumped on and began whipping him in the face SO hard I felt like strangling him. His horse was just shaking and so I told him to stop and got off the other horse and paid and left. There was somthing wrong with the poor gelding's feet too...=(

Still, that article cracked me up =]

[Fiera]

the guy had a few points tho, but his extremism made the whole thing sound like gibberish. Just too extreme XP

[EquineJessie]

Wow, this is was just so silly I had to respond.

Horseback Riding and Animal Rights:
Can They Ever Be in Harmony?
Comments by: Saba Alemayehu - 25 Feb 2002

“Thou shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free.” Christ Jesus the Vegan Lord

Well, methinks you wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face. BTW, Christ Jesus cannot be vegan. Remember the fish he was BBQing on the seashore?

Praised be the God of all spiritual creations, in the Lord. Amen.

Greeting. I read some of the posting on the issue of Horseback riding and like to share my views on it. The Holy Bible teaches us that all creatures are only spiritual by nature and are not both material as well as spiritual. All creatures are also here on earth and in the heavens to serve the one true God (Divine Love) alone in Spirit and in Truth and to worship the Lord only, eternally. Based on this Horseback riding, Elephant, Camel and other animal riding are not allowed for men to do.

Genensis 1:26 And God said, let us make man in our image, according to our likeness and let him have dominion over the birds of the air, over the livestock, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth.

Lady, read your bible.

Horse riding/racing is a crime and a sin, a serious offense it is as bad as butchering the animals for their bodily parts. It is as bad as violently milking them for their milk and taking their eggs unjustly. The tourist industry is making its millions by offering horse drawn carriages and elephant, camel and mare rides, in many countries. But the money made on the animals is unprofitable gain, a blood money that does no good.

Mmm hmm. Remember when the children of israel left Egypt? Remember when Jesus divided up five loaves and two fishes among 5,000? Remember Sampson killing thousands with the jawbone of an ***?

Christian vegans should know that animal products as well as animal services degrade, the animals’ birth right, in Christ, to be free, to know and serve only their maker. They cannot do both the wicked human will and God’s excellent will. Every creation of God in Christian Science (the Lord Holy Spirit, the law of life) is fully and eternally God governed, God provided and God protected, God sustained, instructed, guided, healed and needs no human coaching and taming, to perform the God given duties. Horses, just like other good creatures of God, are very warm, responsive, intelligent and spiritually fruitful beings, who should not be violently, painfully and forcefully “tamed” by carnals, that are not lawful nor God fearing and fearless.

Oh rlly.

For example, some vegetarians wrongly think that the taking of dairy products is not as violent as eating the meat of the animals, but the spiritual facts disprove this wrong assumption. It is so unjust and painful to the milked, restricted cows, buffalos, camels and goats to be forced and do the will of the human race and the demonic beasts. That is why the vegan Lord Christ Jesus was/is the best shepherd/cowherd, who protects all the uncorrupt animals. Lord Jesus alone is the friend of all the horses and the other wonderful and beautiful beings, in the universe. All animals of God are equal in worth, fruitfulness in goodness with the human race and other beings, in Jesus the redeemer.

Wow, this is just so laughable. BTW, what do you think is more painful for a wet cow? Being milked twice a day or not being milked?

Therefore we should never assume that the horses do not mind being saddled and ridden by human beings because they do mind, it is not normal or natural for them to accept slavery, fatigue and evil. Cruelty, selfishness and cowardice may try to go on justifying horseback riding in societies but that does not make it right. The animals pray for us as we pray for them, they minister to all creations, as all creations also minister to them, by the power and the means of the Lord Holy Spirit. Christ Jesus alone is the Savior of all created beings, we are not the provider, healer, owner or saviors of the animals and trees…etc

I always tell to pony riders and police men/women not to ride the animals needlessly, but some of them think it is something that the animals themselves enjoy to do, which is a lie. Every animal hates being manipulated, exploited, and being made an instrument of the aggressive and forceful devil.

So I think we should be one mind on this issue and hope for the freedom of every animal on earth to be realized. So they too can serve only the Holy God of Jesus the just and live their own God given lives, with their families and the saint, as one body of Christ. The carnal self that should put that terrible iron thing on its own fibbing thong, to control it and tame it shamelessly puts it in the mouth of the guiltless horses and violently saddle and ride them, from no where to no where. This is so demonic. Polo and horse racing, boxing, rooster and bull fighting are all violent sports that we all should condemn and not have any thing to do with.

Blessed be the God of the good horses, forever. Amen.

Saba

Jesus, whom you hide behind, using His name to promote your ridiculous cause came into Jerusalem riding on a donkey!!!!!

[Fiera]

lol, that's just funny!

[bunnie]

didn't MARY ride on a donky before she had Jesus And don't babies sucks milk out of the mother's brest and did't they in have milk to drink when Jesus walked the earth didn't GOD make Adam over all the aminal of the earth and told him to give them names and i have never seen it in the BIBLE saying for us not to ride or tame the horses GOD gave man to be over all the animals on the earth

[MelissaH]

Cruelty would be riding a hamster, wouldn't it?

[Heavenly Jumper]

Originally Posted by MelissaH

Cruelty would be riding a hamster, wouldn't it?

Bwahahaha!!