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Old 09-30-2008, 06:01 PM   #11
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That much Bute shouldnt hurt with a one time dose (track horses can get up to 10cc at one time)... I would suggest a half tube of Probios to settle his tummy though.
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Old 10-01-2008, 06:43 AM   #12
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There is a big difference in 7 grams and 10mls of Bute. Injectible Bute is a 200mg/ml concentration and thus 10mls is only 2 grams--the top end of the normal dosing range for an average adult horse for IV administration. 4 grams is the top oral administration for a day, so 7 grams is high but probably not life-threateningly so. Watch attitude, appetite, water intake, urination and defication for the next several days just to be on the safe side and notify the vet if anything is "off".

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Old 10-01-2008, 06:49 AM   #13
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I would treat him for ulcers after you are done with the bute. Just one or two regular doses of bute can create or upset ulcers.
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Old 10-01-2008, 07:35 AM   #14
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Just so you know, bute is not effective for an abcess. It is actually my gauge to discern between an abcess and another diagnosis. If I give bute and there is no change, it is an abcess! The best course of action is to soak in epsom salts, pack with ichthamol, magnapaste, or sugar/iodine, wrap. I have my farrier out to hoof test and see if she can open it to drain.
Probably one overdose of bute will not be harmful, but you could give something like mylanta to buffer the stomach from ulcers. It will probably pass through with no issue, though.
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Old 10-01-2008, 09:54 AM   #15
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Just so you know, bute is not effective for an abcess. It is actually my gauge to discern between an abcess and another diagnosis. If I give bute and there is no change, it is an abcess! The best course of action is to soak in epsom salts, pack with ichthamol, magnapaste, or sugar/iodine, wrap. I have my farrier out to hoof test and see if she can open it to drain.
Probably one overdose of bute will not be harmful, but you could give something like mylanta to buffer the stomach from ulcers. It will probably pass through with no issue, though.
I know it is an abscess. It just hasn't come to the surface yet. My husband is a farrier. I know what to do for an abscess. My qeustion was about the bute overdoseage. The bute was more to calm the inflammation in her fetlock that often accompanies an abscess and to give her a little relief from the pain. I do not expect it to heal an abscess. Thanks for the reassurance, though. My vet just advised to watch her through the rest of the week, especially today. As of this morning, she was okay - no loose manure yet. It will take a few days for the bute to pass through her system, so we are not out of the woods. Thanks for your help, everyone!
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I would treat him for ulcers after you are done with the bute. Just one or two regular doses of bute can create or upset ulcers.
I have no experience with ulcers. My vet said we may need to treat for them, with an additional drug. I wonder how long ulcer treatment usually takes. Probably depends on the situation.
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I have no experience with ulcers. My vet said we may need to treat for them, with an additional drug. I wonder how long ulcer treatment usually takes. Probably depends on the situation.
It just depends on severity. Most horses do have ulcers at some level so when adding things like bute it can really aggravate them. Just watch for things like change in behavior, not wanting to eat, getting aggressive or a lot of yawning at feeding time and extra sensitive in the flank area as that is the digestion point.
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I know it is an abscess. It just hasn't come to the surface yet. My husband is a farrier. I know what to do for an abscess. My qeustion was about the bute overdoseage. The bute was more to calm the inflammation in her fetlock that often accompanies an abscess and to give her a little relief from the pain. I do not expect it to heal an abscess.
I think you missed the point though that bute, which is non-selective in its work, is known to hinder the progress of an abcess.
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My vet prefers to open and drain abscesses - messy, but effective. Considering the amount of pain they cause, I often go aggressive in treatment and once opened, change bandages daily until drained, then I keep it bandaged to keep it clean and prevent a recurrence.
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Opening an abcess is not necessarily the best course of action. Open it too early, and you may not have all the infection come out, so the body walls it off again and you start all over.

Also, unless you're very careful in your excavation, you can end up with quite a large wound that you now have to treat. Often an abcess track will heal behind itself, so by the time it actually bursts, there isn't a huge hole.
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