My horse is hard to control when jumping help

pip15 · 10-18-2009, 02:14 PM

my mare is very good to school is a bit forward at times. likes to rush her trot but does a nice dressage test and behaves in the showing classes
she is ridden in a dutch gag.
when i take her round a jump course she goes up to the jumps and sometimes tries to run out but jumps them most of the time. The problem is the more you jump and when you ask your leg to take off teh faster she gets. got to point today where she dragged me across the field
she will jump one or 2 nicely but gets wound up and wants to go when i do more like a course. i try and collect her and slow her it kills my arms and she just opens her mouth and puts her head up and pulls against my hands.
when i finally stop her and get her calm for a few minutes and ask her to walk on she gets teh right hump and walks backwards and tries to rear.
she doesnt like leaving my otehr mare and gets more on her toes when away from her. after working her for 30 minutes she had enough and my other mare neighed and that was it she was not doing anything.
out hacking and with another horse dozy as anything but jumping is mad i want to do cross country and showjumping but cant stop any ideas what to do or equipment i could ty to encourage her to listen to me. shes a 14 hh cob but can pull you

RansomRokz · 10-18-2009, 02:25 PM

Hmm well if she'll do one or two nicely why don't you work on doing one, then bringing her back to a walk, then doing one nicely, back to a walk. Reward the good behavior and keep the task manageable. If you begin to lose control do some circles and every time she tries to run out on you make her do circles. She won't like doing circles and with repetition should stop trying to get out of control. Eventually you'll be able to do 3 jumps without her getting a bit crazy, and then 4, and so on until you can do the entire course with her under control. The trick is that if you know she'll do 2 jumps nicely and after that rush, do 1 good jump and reward her for that.

The same thing works for her attachment to your other mare. If you sense she's going to stop working and refuse to listen to you in a minute, stop her in 30 seconds. If she refuses to move then you can try drawing her around and doing tight circles, she'll have to move her feet. Let her know that she stops on your accord, and every time she refuses to work for you she's going to have to work harder.
Hope this helps!

Reitpferde · 10-18-2009, 02:34 PM

Back to square one: Forego the fences and start working over nothing but poles. Start with one, that add one, and so on. She has to trot over those quietly and relaxed. If you feel her speeding up, turn before the poles and start over again. Not seeing a vid or pix, I can only guess. Is it possible that she is unbalanced? If that is the case, you need to do lots of flat work before going over fences again.

LindaMM · 10-18-2009, 03:00 PM

Gymnastic work. Trotting poles and small cavaletti. Instead of putting in the second jump, put in a grid of poles and cavaletti. Keep her mind occupied on the work at hand.

rageandglory · 10-18-2009, 03:55 PM

i second Reitpferde.

JBandRio · 10-18-2009, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rageandglory

i second Reitpferde.

I third Reitpferde...

xlilxonex · 10-18-2009, 05:14 PM

Can I fourth? haha

rageandglory · 10-19-2009, 04:03 AM

i went with Reipt's post as my choice for a first step to achieve what the OP needs. Linda has offered an excellent second step for when calmness and confidence are accomplished : ) jmo

Reitpferde · 10-19-2009, 07:35 AM

I love how well we all get along!

rageandglory · 10-19-2009, 10:11 AM

i was priding myself on how great minds think alike : ). ok, i go sit down now.

10-18-2009, 02:14 PM	#1
pip15 Full Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 118 Images: 5	My horse is hard to control when jumping help my mare is very good to school is a bit forward at times. likes to rush her trot but does a nice dressage test and behaves in the showing classes she is ridden in a dutch gag. when i take her round a jump course she goes up to the jumps and sometimes tries to run out but jumps them most of the time. The problem is the more you jump and when you ask your leg to take off teh faster she gets. got to point today where she dragged me across the field she will jump one or 2 nicely but gets wound up and wants to go when i do more like a course. i try and collect her and slow her it kills my arms and she just opens her mouth and puts her head up and pulls against my hands. when i finally stop her and get her calm for a few minutes and ask her to walk on she gets teh right hump and walks backwards and tries to rear. she doesnt like leaving my otehr mare and gets more on her toes when away from her. after working her for 30 minutes she had enough and my other mare neighed and that was it she was not doing anything. out hacking and with another horse dozy as anything but jumping is mad i want to do cross country and showjumping but cant stop any ideas what to do or equipment i could ty to encourage her to listen to me. shes a 14 hh cob but can pull you

10-18-2009, 02:34 PM	#3
Reitpferde Senior Member+ Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Central New Jersey Posts: 1,606 Images: 34	Back to square one: Forego the fences and start working over nothing but poles. Start with one, that add one, and so on. She has to trot over those quietly and relaxed. If you feel her speeding up, turn before the poles and start over again. Not seeing a vid or pix, I can only guess. Is it possible that she is unbalanced? If that is the case, you need to do lots of flat work before going over fences again. __________________ "The problem with Socialism is that eventually you will run out of other people's money!" Margaret Thatcher

10-18-2009, 03:00 PM	#4
LindaMM Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,403 Images: 121 Blog Entries: 2	Gymnastic work. Trotting poles and small cavaletti. Instead of putting in the second jump, put in a grid of poles and cavaletti. Keep her mind occupied on the work at hand. __________________ If the world was truly a rational place, men would ride sidesaddle. ~Rita Mae Brown If the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail. -Abraham Maslow

10-18-2009, 05:14 PM	#7
xlilxonex Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,305 Images: 24 Blog Entries: 1	Can I fourth? haha __________________ I <3 My Curly http://bbspinnaker.webs.com/

10-19-2009, 07:35 AM	#9
Reitpferde Senior Member+ Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Central New Jersey Posts: 1,606 Images: 34	I love how well we all get along! __________________ "The problem with Socialism is that eventually you will run out of other people's money!" Margaret Thatcher

10-18-2009, 02:25 PM	#2
RansomRokz Full Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: On the back of a horse Posts: 83	Hmm well if she'll do one or two nicely why don't you work on doing one, then bringing her back to a walk, then doing one nicely, back to a walk. Reward the good behavior and keep the task manageable. If you begin to lose control do some circles and every time she tries to run out on you make her do circles. She won't like doing circles and with repetition should stop trying to get out of control. Eventually you'll be able to do 3 jumps without her getting a bit crazy, and then 4, and so on until you can do the entire course with her under control. The trick is that if you know she'll do 2 jumps nicely and after that rush, do 1 good jump and reward her for that. The same thing works for her attachment to your other mare. If you sense she's going to stop working and refuse to listen to you in a minute, stop her in 30 seconds. If she refuses to move then you can try drawing her around and doing tight circles, she'll have to move her feet. Let her know that she stops on your accord, and every time she refuses to work for you she's going to have to work harder. Hope this helps!

10-18-2009, 03:55 PM	#5
rageandglory Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,428	i second Reitpferde.

10-19-2009, 04:03 AM	#8
rageandglory Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,428	i went with Reipt's post as my choice for a first step to achieve what the OP needs. Linda has offered an excellent second step for when calmness and confidence are accomplished : ) jmo

10-19-2009, 10:11 AM	#10
rageandglory Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,428	i was priding myself on how great minds think alike : ). ok, i go sit down now.

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