My Adea Is Dun....or is she buckskin?

babyruth · 03-27-2008, 07:46 AM

As I mentioned in a thread a few weeks ago brother's yearling by Indian Prescription was registered with the name My Adea is Dun (or something like that, I have never seen the exact spelling). Obviously from the name they chose, they had her figured for a dun. Now based on what the dam is registered as, if that color is correct, she shouldn't be able to be a dun - but there have been suspicions that the mare is registered incorrectly in regards to color. I was suppose to get pictures back at the time of the original thread, but as I am famous for never knowing where my camera is, I am just now getting around to it.

Now, this is the mare, Romantic Rose. She is registered as brown, which is most likely wrong. Her full sister looked more of a brown, she was registered as a bay and then turned out she was a smoky black which was revealed when she had a cremello. So we were really off on our colors for a couple of years

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Rose's mother was registered as a dun.

The sire to this yearling is a palomino.

And without further delay, here is the little lady in question:

doublebarr · 03-27-2008, 07:52 AM

That baby is a dun. NO QUESTION. And THANK YOU for posting this. I had said in another thread that I think once the "dun" test is better, a lot of people will be supprised that their "bay horses with countershading" are really deep bay duns.

Or deep brown duns.

ETA: just because I say she is dun does not mean that I think that is the only modifier. With momma throwing a previous cream (if the stud did not carry cream) then she could easily be a buckskin dun, but she is deffinately dun.

Solsalia · 03-27-2008, 07:52 AM

I would say a dunskin.

babyruth · 03-27-2008, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by doublebarr

That baby is a dun. NO QUESTION. And THANK YOU for posting this. I had said in another thread that I think once the "dun" test is better, a lot of people will be supprised that their "bay horses with countershading" are really deep bay duns.

Or deep brown duns.

Well how can we get AQHA to change the papers? Do we start with the mare? They sent pictures in of Adea at the time of registry and I guess the color defaulted to buckskin because of Rose being declared brown. What's the proper protocol to get everyone listed at they should be?

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ETA: just because I say she is dun does not mean that I think that is the only modifier. With momma throwing a previous cream (if the stud did not carry cream) then she could easily be a buckskin dun, but she is deffinately dun.

This is the first live foal this mare has had. She had one born dead a couple of years ago and I want to say it was a dark color, but it would really be hard to know since we never really saw it dry and fluffy. Her full sister had a cremello in 2006, seems like she had a bay looking colored colt in 2007 (they both left before the baby was ever weaned) and the new owners reported having either a palomino or a dun of something last year. I remember it was light and I remember it was pretty but I don't remember exactly what color it was.

doublebarr · 03-27-2008, 08:00 AM

Are both mom and baby DNA'ed? That will be the first hurdle. Then new pictures of both. Shoot, just call AQHA and tell them what is going on and they can tell you chapter and verse what you need to do with no guessing, LOL.

Haas Horse Farm · 03-27-2008, 08:01 AM

There is nothing wrong with Rose being listed as brown because she is brown... she is also dun. Also how do we know that the sire is not dunalino... Sorry I am just paying devils advocate. Is there a color pedigree on both the sire and dam?

Is the filly parentage verified?

Your filly could be both dun and buckskin. The only way to know for sure would be to test for cream.

Haas Horse Farm · 03-27-2008, 08:02 AM

You would have to get your filly dun/cream tested and parentage verified before anything would be able to be changed.

doublebarr · 03-27-2008, 08:04 AM

Mary, the sire is Indian Perscription.

Who is I believe bay. I'll go check.

@(*#*% I was thinking of Indian Artifacts. This one is Palomino. Tupid me!

And no duns in his line back 5 gens. So cream could come from dad also but dun *should* come from mom.

babyruth · 03-27-2008, 08:10 AM

Thanks! I am just going to send my brother and SIL a link to this thread and leave it up to them.

accphotography · 03-27-2008, 08:56 AM

I, frankly, would like more evidence the sire is not dun himself before I am too inclined to think the mare is. If he is not, for sure, and parentage testing proves the parents are the correct parents... I will fall over.

I suspected "hidden" duns... but this mare would not have fallen into that category for me. No shots of her back I don't suppose?

ACC

03-27-2008, 07:46 AM	#1
babyruth Senior Member+ Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pawnee, AL Posts: 1,885 Images: 256	My Adea Is Dun....or is she buckskin? As I mentioned in a thread a few weeks ago brother's yearling by Indian Prescription was registered with the name My Adea is Dun (or something like that, I have never seen the exact spelling). Obviously from the name they chose, they had her figured for a dun. Now based on what the dam is registered as, if that color is correct, she shouldn't be able to be a dun - but there have been suspicions that the mare is registered incorrectly in regards to color. I was suppose to get pictures back at the time of the original thread, but as I am famous for never knowing where my camera is, I am just now getting around to it. Now, this is the mare, Romantic Rose. She is registered as brown, which is most likely wrong. Her full sister looked more of a brown, she was registered as a bay and then turned out she was a smoky black which was revealed when she had a cremello. So we were really off on our colors for a couple of years . Rose's mother was registered as a dun. The sire to this yearling is a palomino. And without further delay, here is the little lady in question:

03-27-2008, 07:52 AM	#3
Solsalia Senior Member+ Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Idaho Posts: 1,943 Images: 118 Blog Entries: 7	I would say a dunskin. __________________ Because of them I strive to make everyday my best day.

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03-27-2008, 07:52 AM	#2
doublebarr Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 6,652 Images: 387	That baby is a dun. NO QUESTION. And THANK YOU for posting this. I had said in another thread that I think once the "dun" test is better, a lot of people will be supprised that their "bay horses with countershading" are really deep bay duns. Or deep brown duns. ETA: just because I say she is dun does not mean that I think that is the only modifier. With momma throwing a previous cream (if the stud did not carry cream) then she could easily be a buckskin dun, but she is deffinately dun.

03-27-2008, 08:00 AM	#5
doublebarr Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 6,652 Images: 387	Are both mom and baby DNA'ed? That will be the first hurdle. Then new pictures of both. Shoot, just call AQHA and tell them what is going on and they can tell you chapter and verse what you need to do with no guessing, LOL.

03-27-2008, 08:04 AM	#8
doublebarr Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 6,652 Images: 387	Mary, the sire is Indian Perscription. Who is I believe bay. I'll go check. @(#% I was thinking of Indian Artifacts. This one is Palomino. Tupid me! And no duns in his line back 5 gens. So cream could come from dad also but dun should come from mom.

03-27-2008, 08:10 AM	#9
babyruth Senior Member+ Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pawnee, AL Posts: 1,885 Images: 256	Thanks! I am just going to send my brother and SIL a link to this thread and leave it up to them.

03-27-2008, 08:56 AM	#10
accphotography Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 2,908	I, frankly, would like more evidence the sire is not dun himself before I am too inclined to think the mare is. If he is not, for sure, and parentage testing proves the parents are the correct parents... I will fall over. I suspected "hidden" duns... but this mare would not have fallen into that category for me. No shots of her back I don't suppose? ACC