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Old 10-25-2009, 10:35 AM   #51
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This is what NH used to be before it became a commercial. What you seen was what you got and you could not help learning a thing or two at every clinic that these guys put on.
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Old 10-25-2009, 10:53 AM   #52
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I have been reading his book, the man that listens to horses,
I'm very impressed. I have yet to been able to use his methods. 'Cause I don't have a horse. But I do like them. I have never ever heard of him being a phony.
But I guess everybody has there own opinions.
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Old 10-25-2009, 04:32 PM   #53
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I find Clinton Anderson's methods make more sense and are delivered in a way that you can actually implement them. While not all he does is useful for everyone, there are several ideas that work for most horses. And you can only take with you what you can use with any of them. As for Monty, he is entertaining, whether his methods work, I can't say, when I had a mustang, I did it my way. I saw him a few years ago at Equine Affaire and wasn't impressed but wasn't turned off his methods, also saw Clinton, Dennis Reis and Pat Parelli. Clinton is the only one I would pay to go see again.
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:06 PM   #54
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met the dude. once was more than enough. he tried to help us, injected himself uninvited and certainly not needed, to load a fearful not stubborn horse into a trailer. resorted immediately to a whip, yes, a whip not a rope, and lost his inflated professional, falsely nonphony (for you fans that believe), highly [un]skilled whisper abilities and got nowhere other than to be asked assertively to leave, in short order. in a very loud voice that brought security out of its hut, told us the horse was trashed, should be destroyed as we had ruined him beyond hope. did we not know any better? what were we thinking, trying to load a stubborn horse without a whip, poor ground training, no join-up, horse was stupid and never going to be productive, we need to be removed from the horse world, etc. yeah, he went on, progressively more loudly and offensively (using us as an example of horrid management and how everybody needs him or they will be killed by their horse ) as people wandered by to hear how we were so bad and he had the miracle cure out back in his whisper bag.......... very loudly insulting (not enough people ran over to see his floor dance when he first approached us) all of us. this, AFTER he is physically removed from the immediate scene....

unbeknownst to him, as the horse never spoke to HIM personally, the horse was a solid point achiever with dependable and consistant behaviour, most suitably and appropriately owned and ridden by a juvenile multiple MaClay winner at the time. just couldn't see where he was going is all... it was later at night and all of us, pone too, were tired and wanting to be home. hadn't even tried to load him yet when m.r. assaulted us. m.r. was countre-productive on too many levels, not to mention presenting hmself as the ignorant, chauvanistic swine he can be, and then to be as offensive and rude as he was... well, as i said, once was more than enough.

yeah, he writes well..... when he pays his ghost. not a fan of his ability to fool so many with such mockery and greed. m.r. KNOWS he's beyond full of it now and smiles all the way to the bank without a moment's hesitation or consideration. self-proclaimed others in the same biz at the same level (and what level is that, really?) are equally greedy but they have the decency not to smirk publically after they fleece anybody and everybody they come in contact with (too busy patting each other on the back for another fine performance; ).

back before these guys were famous, they had good and right concepts. not all their ideas are empty, useless, ineffective, or bad. American marketing freedom and the success are theirs for the taking, no pun intended. at this point, if we feel taken by their methods and "stuff", it is our fault, not theirs.

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Old 10-26-2009, 03:20 PM   #55
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met the dude. once was more than enough. he tried to help us, injected himself uninvited and certainly not needed, to load a fearful not stubborn horse into a trailer. resorted immediately to a whip, yes, a whip not a rope, and lost his inflated professional, falsely nonphony (for you fans that believe), highly [un]skilled whisper abilities and got nowhere other than to be asked assertively to leave, in short order. in a very loud voice that brought security out of its hut, told us the horse was trashed, should be destroyed as we had ruined him beyond hope. did we not know any better? what were we thinking, trying to load a stubborn horse without a whip, poor ground training, no join-up, horse was stupid and never going to be productive, we need to be removed from the horse world, etc. yeah, he went on, progressively more loudly and offensively (using us as an example of horrid management and how everybody needs him or they will be killed by their horse ) as people wandered by to hear how we were so bad and he had the miracle cure out back in his whisper bag.......... very loudly insulting (not enough people ran over to see his floor dance when he first approached us) all of us. this, AFTER he is physically removed from the immediate scene....

unbeknownst to him, as the horse never spoke to HIM personally, the horse was a solid point achiever with dependable and consistant behaviour, most suitably and appropriately owned and ridden by a juvenile multiple McClay winner at the time. just couldn't see where he was going is all... it was later at night and all of us, pone too, were tired and wanting to be home. hadn't even tried to load him yet when m.r. assaulted us. m.r. was countre-productive on too many levels, not to mention presenting hmself as the ignorant, chauvanistic swine he can be, and then to be as offensive and rude as he was... well, as i said, once was more than enough.

yeah, he writes well..... when he pays his ghost. not a fan of his ability to fool so many with such mockery and greed. m.r. KNOWS he's beyond full of it now and smiles all the way to the bank without a moment's hesitation or consideration. self-proclaimed others in the same biz at the same level (and what level is that, really?) are equally greedy but they have the decency not to smirk publically after they fleece anybody and everybody they come in contact with (too busy patting each other on the back for another fine performance; ).

back before these guys were famous, they had good and right concepts. not all their ideas are empty, useless, ineffective, or bad. American marketing freedom and the success are theirs for the taking, no pun intended. at this point, if we feel taken by their methods and "stuff", it is our fault, not theirs.
WOW! Sounds like a prize ... sheesh!
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I went to one of his clinics one time.. probably about 10 years ago now, and I thought it was amazing. Ofcourse, I read his books, The Man Who Listens to Horses and Shy Boy, and they were great. I think a lot of his techniques deserve ample credit, but as a few of you have said, he's turned to the commercial dark side. I wouldnt say he's as bad as the parelli pyramid scheme, but close. His original techniques without all the high priced junk were worth something.
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Old 10-29-2009, 05:11 AM   #57
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When Monty worked with the racehorse Blushing ET that had a PHOBIA of starting gates, it took him eighty days to work the horse through its problems. If he hadn't succeeded the horse would have been put down because of its extremely dangerous reactions to any humans on the ground. I think that eighty days is a pretty patient number. Don't you? By the way, after he had helped that horse, it went on to win some races and had lost its fear.
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